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  1. #1
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    I am not a regular reefer guy, but I had a job thrust upon me yesterday (Christmas) that I had to look into.

    Walk in freezer with disconnected wire at pump down solenoid, in box. I reconnect, freezer comes back to life.

    Box is so OVERPACKED, not a breath of air can move any where but 6 inces in front of evap. I know the overpacking killed this box, exposed wiring zip tied to lineset in the box, a box shoved in pulled the wire nut off at the solenoid.

    Contracted caterer at the embassy I work for doesnt want to pull any stock out, even for me to check things out further. I tell her the stuff at the back will not freeze, she asks me "Where else is she going to put it?", like its my problem.

    What do you guys do when you find a box that is so full that you cant even work in there, yet the client wont move anything?

  2. #2
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    ekim

    This situation is fairly normal in our world. All you can do is ask them to move it or tell them the consequences of overloading.

    If you write an invoice or log.. give details and you will not be liable or responsible for her actions.

    g'luck


  3. #3
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    that stuff will not be moved until it is used or thrown out. then it will be replaced with more stuff. no one ever buys as much cooler or freezer as they really need.

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    Hey Ekim does it look anything like this????

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=92655
    If you really know how it works, you have an execellent chance of fixin' er up!

    Tomorrow is promised to no one...

  5. #5
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    I didnt figure there was much else to do.
    Food in the box is for a New Years party the ambassador is tossing for some local big shots. Mostly seafood, yuck when that goes warm.

    I was called to look becuase the usual South African HVAC&R guy is away on holiday, the marine on post knows me and was getting crazy over the high temp alarm buzzer.

    I know I will hear more about this tomorrow.

    Stupid woman.

  6. #6
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    Originally posted by t527ed
    that stuff will not be moved until it is used or thrown out. then it will be replaced with more stuff. no one ever buys as much cooler or freezer as they really need.
    On this comment, have you ever seen the differences in a system or systems with a bunch of walkin stuff. I do some school cafeteria stuff with walk ins. Some churches. And those are those systems where the walk in has been their for 40 years, same pump, same everything. The floor you could almost eat off of. Impeccable shape. Those boxes, always seem to always be properly loaded. To do what the design intent of that set up was supposed to do. And then you go see an improperly used set up or improperly located and they always just seem to turn to crap in like 5 years.

  7. #7
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    Originally posted by rayr
    Hey Ekim does it look anything like this????

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=92655
    That is exactly what it looked like.
    Zero room in or out.

    I went in to the embassy this morning, NOW there is room. They threw half the food out, box is at 10F.

    The woman that bought all that pricey seafood she had to toss was making noise that this was somehow my fault, for not being there quickly enough. What an old hag.

    Next time she has a reefer problem she can lose my number.
    Maybe I will sneak in there and swap that high temp annunciator with an old fire alarm box I have....

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    Originally posted by Dowadudda
    Originally posted by t527ed
    that stuff will not be moved until it is used or thrown out. then it will be replaced with more stuff. no one ever buys as much cooler or freezer as they really need.
    On this comment, have you ever seen the differences in a system or systems with a bunch of walkin stuff. I do some school cafeteria stuff with walk ins. Some churches. And those are those systems where the walk in has been their for 40 years, same pump, same everything. The floor you could almost eat off of. Impeccable shape. Those boxes, always seem to always be properly loaded. To do what the design intent of that set up was supposed to do. And then you go see an improperly used set up or improperly located and they always just seem to turn to crap in like 5 years.

    schools and churches are some of the worst around here. schools that get the government food and jam it in there, most churches i have worked in try to jam enough food for a small walk-in into a 2 door reach-in. health dept here must walk around with blinders on.

  9. #9
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    Hi Ekim
    I know exactly how you feel.I've seen this attitude time and time again.

    These days we techos have to go through so much re-training and licencing stuff to use "ozone depleting substances and greenhouse gases " bull**** so the human race may stand some chance to survive the next fifty years...

    How many people in the food industry get away with potential murder every day by their disregard of hygiene and the basic simple standards of food preservation.?

    On a different tack ! Do we blame Du pont for the end of the world for inventing CFC's or Praise them for keeping our fridges working for the past fifty years ?

    Personally I think we should all go completely vegetarian and grow our own produce in our back yards and set all the cows free.

    Then I'll retire from this business !!

    FRiDGE IT..



  10. #10
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    Ha!
    This lady doesnt get it. She just called again and asked my boss, (not me) if I can go back and check it out this walk in again, just to make sure "it doesnt go down again".

    I went over there, and she has it packed up just as full as it was before!
    Sheesh.
    All new seafood,shrimp and lobster, I have to wonder how much that cost her.

    I told her with no airflow, that she would have the same problem. She wanted me to "do" something.

    I left.

    I wish I had a camera here.

    This lady is dense!

  11. #11
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    I disagree ekim

    There is something you can do.

    She asked you to do something and you did nothing... what is wrong with you.

    Why didn't you pull all of the expensive food and put it on the floor and say.. there, It is fixed!

    Don't forget to make lots and lots of notes or she will be at your boss's door.




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    even better load the extra food in your truck and say there its fixed!!!

  13. #13
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    This just keeps getting better for me.

    I have been home for an hour. I received a call just now from The Marine Guard at the embassy. High temp alarm went off again!

    The lady who re-stuffed this walk in with another load of expensive seafood took the liberty of giving my cell phone number to the Marine, with instructions to call me if the alarm went off.

    He just did. That box was at 10F this morning.

    Since she is a local civilian contractor, allowed to set up a business in the embassy (for diplomatic community conveniance of course), and has bid and won as the caterer for this ritzy New Years party, I now feel I am entitled to charge her if I return.

    Whats the going rate for a reefer guy doing a short notice, non contract, emergency call?

    That should get her looking in the phone book real fast for somebody else.

    I would be inclined to help her out if only she hadnt been so darn rude to me, snapping at me on Christmas day when I was out there on my own time.

    What do you think? I'm not in a hurry.

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