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  1. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsrfine View Post
    This problem reminds me of the science fiction stuff about the parodox of time travel; trying to restrict free speach while at the same time trying to not restrict it.
    What a lousy time we live in. Someone goes to the trouble to provide something nice and beneficial to everyone, but the fear of one stupid law suit ruins it for everyone.
    Isn't there some kind of form that this site can make everyone fill out & sign that removes any right they may have from sueing anyone? Pay a lawyer to fool-proof the darn thing, maybe make people fill out a question & answer form that show they've read the thing before signing their rights away?
    Never underestimate the ability of an attorney to mount a frivolous lawsuit.

    To be fair, most people have no business reaching into any kind of AC unit that is not based on delivery of blocks of ice. Even when someone is lucid and apparently competent as an adult in life, they may not have all of the experiential underpinnings to carry out a suggested repair or diagnostic check.

    That's why the best advice continues to be, "check our contractor map or contact a Pro in your area, and here are some ideas to discuss with him."
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  2. #80
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    Dad - I understand and appreciate all that's being posted. But here's a suggestion: Why not create a separate thread which specifically caters to DIY by HO and any advice a pro might or might not want to give?

    There are some things which can be and is being and will be attempted by HO. The pros here might or might not want to advice for it or against it. Either way, as you stated, this is a TALK forum.

    Why is it you're explicitly prohibiting anything and everything that's DIY ? Is it because you fear there are many simple things which professionals have made it complex in order NOT to loose revenue stream or is it because you fear a HO is essentially a incompetent and HVAC is truly a rocket science and thus left to experts?

  3. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisepole View Post
    Dad - I understand and appreciate all that's being posted. But here's a suggestion: Why not create a separate thread which specifically caters to DIY by HO and any advice a pro might or might not want to give?

    There are some things which can be and is being and will be attempted by HO. The pros here might or might not want to advice for it or against it. Either way, as you stated, this is a TALK forum.

    Why is it you're explicitly prohibiting anything and everything that's DIY ? Is it because you fear there are many simple things which professionals have made it complex in order NOT to loose revenue stream or is it because you fear a HO is essentially a incompetent and HVAC is truly a rocket science and thus left to experts?
    Think about it. If you went through the trouble to build one of the largest HVAC website over the past 10+ years (I've been here 10yrs, not sure how old the site is) would you want to do things that would cut into your business? As a TV/appliance tech I'll tell you the routine jobs are our bread & butter. The "tough dogs" that we make multiple trips on we typically loose money.

  4. #82
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    It is suggest that we now close this down so the AOPC can do some more work. So without further delay... poof closed

    btw...54regcab.... site opened in 2000. I actually joined in May of 2000 and was the 77th to do so. Yes, this is my second account but got away with it... lost my password and got severely spanked by Boss. You are basically correct... this is a professional site that allows HO's to ask some questions but is not a DIY site.

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