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  1. #1
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    Gaffer and Sattler Unit O.o

    Hey guys, I'm new here (so don't kill me if this is against the rules...) but just a few days ago, our A/C unit (don't kill me if i said it wrong.....please...:[ ) died apparently. We got a licensed guy come in and he was going "wow wow... what an antique... you don't find these anymore" and telling us how what we should / need to replace. 3 ton unit blah blah... usual stuff.


    But i have some a few pictures of the indoor unit and would like to see if anyone here know exactly how old it is. My dad said this unit has been running since we got this house back in 1988 so it is at least 23 years old. A google search showed me the name Gaffer and Sattler hasn't been used since 1969 so... yeah...

    Thanks if anyone can help me identify its actual age. This forum seems like an excellent place to learn. Nice guys and lots of useful information!



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    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...sattlers2.jpg/
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    I'll take more pictures of the inside and outside unit if you guys want more. Thanks once more!

    Tim

    *edit* Can a mod or someone assist me in posting these actual pictures? Thanks!
    Last edited by BaldLoonie; 08-31-2011 at 05:36 PM. Reason: tried to get pix to show but no luck

  2. #2
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    It looks very old. If you can post a model and serial number or the unit (both inside and out) we may be able to decipher a manufacture date.

  3. #3
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    Seems to me the only thing you really need to know is it's time for this whole system to be retired.

    Gaffers and Sattler is ancient stuff. Time to let it go to HVAC heaven. That furnace heat exchanger can't be in the best shape. Efficiency through the floor.
    • Electricity makes refrigeration happen.
    • Refrigeration makes the HVAC psychrometric process happen.
    • HVAC pyschrometrics is what makes indoor human comfort happen...IF the ducts AND the building envelope cooperate.


    A building is NOT beautiful unless it is also comfortable.

  4. #4
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    heres the outside unit. It seems its R22 based? (it's the broken one)

    The inside unit's model number is... 3DT / 4DT - 61 (or 67 / 6T ~ can't make it out)

    Thanks guys and yes we're replacing it ...

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    its time to have that unit recycled and lower your carbon foot print.

  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shophound View Post
    ...Gaffers and Sattler is ancient stuff...
    That obervation makes me feel old.
    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."
    Mark Twain
    More at: http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/education/

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    A furnace in Sacramento can't see a whole lot of use. I'm not suprised it's still running. They don't make them like htey used to. I don't see any on the newer electronically controlled stuff lasting much over 20 years. Then again... there are cars from the 80's with first generation fuel injection that are still alive and ticking. Although not very many.

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