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    Hand tools for the job?

    Today was my last day of school, and the new job starts monday I will be doing new start ups, and the boss said to just bring hand tools the first day. Now the big question is what hand tools should I bring, oh yea, he also said gauges. I know I will need two sets r22 and r410a. Any other input would be great!

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    Utt-O...

    So what did you take in School?
    Yes, I know I Shouldn't But I Just Can't Help Myself...

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    I did a 9 month program at a school in las vegas called ati

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    Start ups of residential a/c?

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    yes for residental and all new conrtuction, I beleive

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    the school was for a/c and refrigeration

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    I'm assuming they gave you some tools from school?

    Just to get you started....
    gauges
    thermometers
    screwdrivers
    amp probe
    meter
    allen wrenches
    scale
    vacuum pump

    And the most important thing....a positive attitude and be ready to learn.

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    For a residential system startup I'd expect to need:

    My manifold. (I use digital, but they aren't required)
    A quality thermometer for takin line temperatures
    A psychrometer
    A differential manometer with static probes
    A vacuum pump
    A micron gauge
    A good electrical meter

    This, of course, doesn't include the basic handtools that everyone needs, too. Wrenches, screwdrivers and the like.



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    hey dylan

    Quote Originally Posted by dylan702 View Post
    Today was my last day of school, and the new job starts monday I will be doing new start ups, and the boss said to just bring hand tools the first day. Now the big question is what hand tools should I bring, oh yea, he also said gauges. I know I will need two sets r22 and r410a. Any other input would be great!
    refrigeration wrench with adapter stems for cond unit valves , valve core remover , channels , adjustable wrenches . box & open end wrenches to at least 5/8 , & good screwdrivers...that should do it to start.....then after a while , like the rest of us , you'll have a garage full , not to mention meters....best of luck..Jack
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    For a residential system startup I'd expect to need:

    .......A differential manometer with static probes.........
    For the first day on the first job after finishing school?
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

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    Don't forget
    lineman's plires
    Wire strippers
    jewlers style screwdrivers philips and flat ( mainly flat head)
    small flashlight/penlight. You would be surprised how much you use them even in lighted areas.
    Nut driver set 1/4 & 5/16 most popular
    inspection mirror
    SAE allen wrenches. Choose your style
    tubing cutters, small thumb screw to the standard 1/2" - 2" dia
    PVC pipe cutter
    Crescent wrench 6", 8", & 10" preferably.
    good assortment of screwdrivers and pliars
    cussing rags to stick in your mouth for mumbling obscenities at whatever your working on around the customer
    Last but not least a tap it wrench/deadblow
    a cordless drill is nice but can get you in big trouble if you aren't careful on these unit panels. ALWAYS know what is behind that screw and not to strip the fragile clips. ALWAYS use the shortest screw possible for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooked View Post
    For the first day on the first job after finishing school?
    He stated that he would be 'starting up' new systems.

    This requires checking static pressure to verify airflow.

    First day or not, do it right or not at all.



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    Good Luck,but I wouldn't put a new tech on his own for awhile.
    Bob O. 84,Pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobelectric View Post
    Good Luck,but I wouldn't put a new tech on his own for awhile.

    I agree, and part of my post was to make him realize that he probably isn't going to be actually starting up new systems.



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    Monday will be one of those days that you "realize you don't know nearly as much as I think I know days." I have those on a weekly basis.

    Oh one other thing OP....leave the cell phone in the truck/van.

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    Talking

    Quote Originally Posted by bobelectric View Post
    Good Luck,but I wouldn't put a new tech on his own for awhile.
    And what JP said. Showing up Monday (or your first day) with a hole in your pocket would be fine with me. The realism is, if you've just completed a 9 month course you Should know what tools you need and and asking on Friday what you need for Monday?

    First day Helper, is just that (to me).

    Good advice Ryan1088. No cell phone, no smokes, maybe no breaks, sometimes no lunch, don't complain about picking up trash and cleaning up.

    And... and, Never Do #2 in a Customers House!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1088 View Post
    Monday will be one of those days that you "realize you don't know nearly as much as I think I know days." I have those on a weekly basis......
    I have those on an hourly basis sometimes....

    Interesting thread and responses, made me think about what it was like on my first day 30+ years ago. I would hope, the few days or maybe even a few weeks would be riding along with a senior tech and observing and asking questions. If it works out like that get the senior tech to ask you questions so you can learn to think on your feet. Hell, he might even learn something from you. Having said all that, I wouldn't let anyone do start-ups until they had spent some candlelit dinners with a senior tech

    As far as tools, I wouldn't spend anymore than I had to upfront until you figure out exactly what you need it could vary somewhat depending on what types of equipment it is.
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

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    thanks for all the info guys!
    As far as not knowing as much as I think, I am all to aware!
    People asked me, how is the school? My only respone is ask me after being in the field at least 6 months!
    The guy that hired me said that once I work a few days I will figure out what I need
    Know I just gotta figure out were to get the tools!

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    Did you not get any tools in school?

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    theres several of us from vegas on the board so just post what you
    need & im sure one of us will help you out.

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