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  1. #1
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    I'm not sure how to best compare apples to apples here. In general, does it use more energy to use a separate whole-house dehumidifier or to use the extra-low fan speed "dehumidify" mode on, say, an Infinity system?

    I can see how using the central a/c dehum mode could be more efficient on cooling days. It seems that the separate dehumidifier would be better on heating days if humidity was still too high - granted, that's less likely.

    What about shoulder-season days where there's no call for heat or a/c? The system is running for ventilation, air filtering, and dehumidification only. In that case, how can I compare the costs of using "dehumidify mode" with a separate dehumidifier?

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    By a dehumidifier salesman/avocate:
    A properly set-up a/c will control the humidity provided to can operate +12 hours a day. Typically, when a/c removes 100 pints/lbs of moisture a day and it maintains <50%RH. The amount of moisture removed is about 2 pints per KW. The more sofisticated a/cs are able to remove the 100 pints with less operating time. A test by a major a/c mfg. indicates 20-30% less cooling load reqired to remove the 100 pints of moisture per day. The pints/KW are less than 2 pints/kw. The multispeed complex controled systems may require the equivalent of 8 hours of full sized a/c operation to remove the 100 pints of moisture. The next option is to over-cool the building to remove more moisture. Overcooling is much more costly and presents many more problems. Comfort, condensation in exterior walls/insulation, condesation on ducts/grills, and lower pints per KW are some of the problems. Clearly, on 65^-70^F rainy day, this is not an acceptable option. In the current mold sensitive culture, over-cooling is not a viable option.

    A high efficiency dehumidifier connected to a properly set-up a/c works as follows. The dehumidifier does not preform any function during the +12 hour a/c day. As the operating hours of the a/c decrease, the dehumidifier picks of the load at 5 pints per KW plus adding 1,300 btus per pint removed of heat back to the home. This considered free reheat and as the a/c removes the heat, the a/c also removes moisture. The warm air from the dehu also helps dryout the a/c ducts. During wet cool weather the dehumidifier controls moisture @ 5 pints per KW and providing 8,000 btus per KW of heat. This is a great heat pump. Unfortunately, the time in most climates when this a significant benefit is to short. As the outside dew points go below 50^F, the need for dehumdification ceases and adequate ventilation with dry outside air meets the need.

    Also, the whole house dehumdifier works well with fresh air ventilation, being able to blend the fresh air with house air, filtering both, dehumidifying both when wet, and distributing the blend throughout the home. A major difference between whole whouse dehumdification is the ability to control indoor humidity with no a/c operation during warm weather. Maintaining <50% RH while the a/c is set-up for extended periods of times allows t-stat set-up for energy conservation without danger of high moisture anyplace in the structure. In addition, slight oversizing of the a/c only means the dehumdifier will operate a little more. Dehus are overal better than more the complex a/c regarding energy, comfort, and simplicity(long term maintainance). Thanks for a great question. TB

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    So would you say that an Infinity system is overkill paired with a whole-house dehu? Are there still going to be comfort advantages to the Infinity system over a more basic one?

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    Our central dehu has been added to many of the two speed top of the line systems to furnish the finishing touches to humidity control and fresh air. Our dehus are compatible. There are some comfort benefits with the top of the line units. If you don't mind the investment and the potiential additional maintaince, you would have the best of all worlds. TB

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    Get the Infinity with a 10 year extended factory warranty and relax in comfort.


    If your home is well built and the duct system is sealed,the humidity will say low enough throughout the year.

    My home does and several homeowners have stated the same.

    Use the search function on this site"Infinity" to see what others have found.

    Is humidity a problem in your home now?

    [Edited by dash on 12-07-2005 at 11:51 AM]

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