Textbook question - piercing valves

[myngos211]

Hello all,

I've been looking through my HVAC textbook between semesters and read that piercing valves should be removed once system access is no longer needed. This of course goes for the non-permanent type but my question is, how on earth do you remove a piercing valve and not lose your refrigerant? What am I missing here that the textbook does not cover?

[maintenanceguy]

My only guess is that it's talking about the plier-type piercing valves that lock onto a refrigerant line like a pair of vice grips.

These are used to evacuate small equipment like window units or refrigerators when you're going to dispose of them.

I agree, every type of piercing valve will leave a hole and can't just be removed (unless the refrigerant already was)

[ryan1088]

Here's the best answer I can think of...Don't work on anything that requires any of that stuff!!! Window units suck.

[myngos211]

I'm now thinking that what they failed to mention is that a tech can use a piercing valve to access the system in order to evacuate, install permanent service valves and make any necessary repairs before charging.

[myngos211]

Lol...true. I was given a 2 ton window unit that the previous ho put a screw through the coil. BRand new otherwise but I would like to attempt a fix and install in my shed.

Here's the best answer I can think of...Don't work on anything that requires any of that stuff!!! Window units suck.

[fearlessfurnace]

well it already has big blue sky recovery so braze in real service valves.

[ryan1088]

Lol...true. I was given a 2 ton window unit that the previous ho put a screw through the coil. BRand new otherwise but I would like to attempt a fix and install in my shed.

Ok I can see your point there. I would get the taps that you braze in, pierce, then do what you need to do and leave it in there. All the other ones are prone to leak. If you really want an adventure then try doing all your work from the process tube off of the compressor!

[Fabrk8r]

They are intended for small appliances such as refrigerators or window units.

Place the piercing valve near the end of the process stub on the appliance. After service is complete pinch off process stub, remove piercing valve and re-seal stub with soft solder.

No refrigerant will be lost.

[karsthuntr]

Use this, no need to remove.



This one needs to be removed, it will leak.

[ryan1088]

Use this, no need to remove.



This one needs to be removed, it will leak.

That's just what I was talking about!

[karsthuntr]

That's just what I was talking about!

Pictures make it more better.

[fridg]

Manitowoc requires you to use one of these so as to not interfere with the charge , they do work.

[myngos211]

Thanks for all the replies. Great pics too.