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  1. #1
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    Did the manuel J on my house last week and now i'm trying to establish if infinity ydb 3ton 2 speed heat pump and fe4annf003 has enough btu to cool to 70 degrees.
    Looking on spec. chart it shows a total of 34,600 btu for set up.
    It also has a notaion to deduct 835 btu sensible capacities for each degree under 80. I think I read that right. I just don't know what true sensible capacitiy is for my set up.
    Can someone please give me that info.
    The manuel J my ac guys did came up with 30,752 sensible and 2070 latent...32,822 total . Loss 31,740
    Mine came up a little different mainly I think I added for heat from computer and home theather equipment.
    Mine ended up as 29,160 sensible and 7,785 latent...total 36,945. loss 33,463
    Design: indoor summer 70
    winter 72
    humidity 50%
    Outdoor
    Summer 97
    winter 29
    grain of moisture 51
    temp. range high
    House is 1731 square foot.
    I'm thinking I need a 4 ton.
    manuel j says 2.5 tons on his and 3 ton on mine
    Should I go with manuel J by HVAC computer systems as gospel? Then 3 tons would do it.
    All professional opinions are appreciated as this is driving nuts not knowing what is correct


  2. #2
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    You need to look at answers to all your previous posts,the Carrier info. the method to adhust the info. for 70° indoos ,etc. etc. it's all there.

    Question,why do you want 70° indoors?

  3. #3
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    Originally posted by flajoker
    Looking on spec. chart it shows a total of 34,600 btu for set up.
    .. Deduct 835 btu sensible capacities for each degree under 80.

    /.. Manual J my ac guys did came up with 30,752 sensible and 2070 latent...32,822 total . Loss 31,740

    Design: indoor summer 70
    Summer 97
    House is 1731 square foot.
    I'm thinking I need a 4 ton.

    ... manuel j says 2.5 tons on his and 3 ton on mine
    Should I go with manuel J by HVAC computer systems as gospel? Then 3 tons would do it.
    What's up with this Math ?

    3-Ton will provide ~17,000 BTU Sensible
    after derating to 70'F
    based on the STATED derating rule

    _ 34,000 Total
    ~ 25,160 Sensible ... Latent 8,840 BTUh at 80'F
    _ -8,350 .. 835 x 10'F ...Derating Rule
    16,690 BTUH
    Designer Dan
    It's Not Rocket Science, But It is SCIENCE with "Some Art".

    Define the Building Envelope and Perform a Detailed Load Calc: It's ALL About Windows and Make-up Air Requirements. Know Your Equipment Capabilities

  4. #4
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    more help, please

    Dash...us fatboys gotta be cool

    Dan, now I'm really confused. Why does manuel j even give a tonnage size? Doesn't it use the design criteria that you input at the beginning?
    Did I state the derating rule correctly?
    Where did you find 25,160 sensible for the 3 ton set up?
    I can find it for gas furnace set ups, but not electric.
    I'm not an ac guy so I'm trying to learn and read these charts as I go.
    Like I said in earlier post, I'm not here much in the summer,so while I have the time am trying to make sure I have the correct size unit.
    I know Dash said in an earlier post to try to bring the house effiency to the unit. I'm not sure where I can get much more out of the house.
    Am I a 1/2 ton short or full ton in yall's opinion?
    If my ac guys are right in their unit selection, that great.
    I just need to prove it to my self with the correct data.
    But if they are wrong, I need them to correct it.
    I also need to be able to prove it to them with the correct data.
    Either way I just want to be able to talk intelligently about it.
    Thanks for your help, flajoker

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