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    new hvac student

    starting hvac school at my local vo tech totally new to field just want sum lil info,advise, pointers to help new student any videos or books to help... thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGLAW View Post
    sum lil
    Is spelled "some little", but you really need to work on your grammer first here is a few pointers:


    There are three basic kinds of sentences: simple, compound, and complex. They are formed by using one or more independent and dependent clauses and phrases. An independent clause can stand alone as a sentence, while a dependent clause or a phrase can not. A phrase is distinguished from a dependent clause by its lack of a necessary subject. The phrase "sentence fragment" is often appended to a student's work when a professor sees a dependent clause or phrase standing on its own.

    If you understand the difference between a dependent clause and an independent clause, you will be able to write proper sentences. You also will be able to form proper compound sentences (which consist of two or more independent clauses) and complex sentences (which consist of one or more dependent clauses and at least one independent clause).

    1. Do not leave dependent clauses or phrases standing alone; these are sentence fragments, not sentences. Sentence fragments often contain a verb with no subject (creating a dependent clause or a phrase). A writer who makes this error will invite the ridicule of more experienced writers. The best way to avoid the problem is to be certain that every sentence has at least one subject linked to each verb. You also can avoid the problem by attaching the fragment to an independent clause with a conjunction, a comma, or both. Be careful, however, not to attach two independent clauses with a comma.

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    sum lil Texting Abrivation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger93rsl View Post
    Is spelled "some little", but you really need to work on your grammer first here is a few pointers:


    There are three basic kinds of sentences: simple, compound, and complex. They are formed by using one or more independent and dependent clauses and phrases. An independent clause can stand alone as a sentence, while a dependent clause or a phrase can not. A phrase is distinguished from a dependent clause by its lack of a necessary subject. The phrase "sentence fragment" is often appended to a student's work when a professor sees a dependent clause or phrase standing on its own.

    If you understand the difference between a dependent clause and an independent clause, you will be able to write proper sentences. You also will be able to form proper compound sentences (which consist of two or more independent clauses) and complex sentences (which consist of one or more dependent clauses and at least one independent clause).

    1. Do not leave dependent clauses or phrases standing alone; these are sentence fragments, not sentences. Sentence fragments often contain a verb with no subject (creating a dependent clause or a phrase). A writer who makes this error will invite the ridicule of more experienced writers. The best way to avoid the problem is to be certain that every sentence has at least one subject linked to each verb. You also can avoid the problem by attaching the fragment to an independent clause with a conjunction, a comma, or both. Be careful, however, not to attach two independent clauses with a comma.
    I'm not sure that is the advice he was looking for. However, that advice will go a very long way.

    As for the OP's original question. One thing that a lot of people I see struggle with is not asking questions when they are not sure of something. If you don't know or don't understand what is being taught to you, speak up! What you get from this class is entirely up to you. I have been to classes myself where I heard from coworkers "That class was dumb, what a waste of my time!" When I attend classes if I only learn one thing it was worth it. There is always something to learn! I have never been to a dumb class.

    You made a wise decision learning HVAC. It is a very rewarding career and can be very profitable. Good luck and Welcome to HVAC-TALK.
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    While a discussion of sentence structure may not be what you wanted, the ability to communicate clearly in speech and writing is of paramount importance.

    Do NOT let yourself use text speak outside of a phone text. It has NO place in letters, emails, posts, or invoices.

    My best advice on the field is to get into a union apprenticeship in a city. That is your best future, and it involves none of your own money.

    Good luck.
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    i meant a "sum info" or a "lil info" im using my blackberry, plz dont be so quick to judge or up tight... again just trying to a find a few helpfull hints from ppl with more exp. than me... thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGLAW View Post
    i meant a "sum info" or a "lil info" im using my blackberry, plz dont be so quick to judge or up tight... again just trying to a find a few helpfull hints from ppl with more exp. than me... thanks

    Wrong response, wrong attitude.

    DO NOT use any abbreviation in posts like this that belong only in a text message.

    It matters not that you were accessing the internet on your phone.

    Proper response: "no excuse, sir."

    If you are smart, and the jury is out on that, you will learn something important from this thread.





    Or, you will learn to ask, "would you like fries with that?"


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    I'm not judging anyone, thats not my job. I'm just trying to help a newcomer out to a good start. Just remember people respect a man who dresses well, is polite, respectfull and uses proper grammer. Those are some vaules that we are loosing in our society today, especially with the younger generation. Those values right there are the foundations to success, so it's very important to start practiceing them now.

    Now as far as HVAC advice I would get your post count up and apply for professional memebership. There are a lot of good discussions there and a lot of people there willing to help you out and answer any questions you might have.

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    . you guy's are brutal today.

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    to the op

    welcome here...

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    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=906932

    This is a perfect example. I got sick and tired of reading this guys posts that I decided to stop helping him.

    The Professional members on this forum are hear to help you. Soak up their advice. They know what they are talking about. Some are business owners and know what they are looking for in a Technician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snupytcb View Post
    . you guy's are brutal today.

    Nope. I'm being helpful.

    I remember being a young punk who showed up at the academy. I had an attitude, too.

    After Plebe training, I no longer had the attitude. I was ready to learn, both the academics, AND the respect due my superiors.

    This is a key concept for today's young techs. Follow the advice, don't argue against it like you are somehow an enlightened individual. Trust me, it just SEEMS that way at a young age.

    Humility and gratitude are worth more to a new tech than silver or gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=906932

    This is a perfect example. I got sick and tired of reading this guys posts that I decided to stop helping him.

    The Professional members on this forum are hear to help you. Soak up their advice. They know what they are talking about. Some are business owners and know what they are looking for in a Technician.
    OMG you said HEAR instead of HERE!!! You must be the worst HVAC tech ever!!! LOL


    I am all for clearly communicating with eloquence in all but the most informal occasions, and especially in business, but I think some of us stuck it to the OP a little hard right out of the gate.
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