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    magicpaks

    Hello
    I am having an on going dispute with someone so I need the pro's to settle this.
    How long would it take you to :
    1-reclaim
    2-remove
    3-replace
    4-vaccum down
    a magicpak condenser
    anyone may answer I am just trying to find out who is right him or me
    I thank all who respond
    Greg

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    Depends on alot of variables. Was the old one a burnout? Tonnage? Every one I treat on a case by case basis.
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    Where's it located? How many floors do you have to carry up the replacement unit and carry down the old one. I can give you scenerios where you need cranes or JLG to do this. Does the service tech get to use a helper?

    Actually, it reminds me of a best I saw someone once make. The bet if they could beat someone riding in an elevator by running up the stairs. They laid down a set of ground rules and stipulations. At go, the runner sprints up the first 2 flights, beats the elevator to the 2nd floor and hits the "^" button forcing the elevator to stop and open the doors. Game over. Now he just casually climbs the next floor, hits the "^" button again and repeats for all 8 floors. Won himself $20.

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    the a/c chassis was already pulled from the magicpak and sitting on the floor of an empty apartment
    the dispute is how many hours is being billed for this
    i told him he is gonna get nailed for it he doesnt think so
    2 ton unit old condenser (6 months old)wouldnt work

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubioishere2 View Post
    the a/c chassis was already pulled from the magicpak and sitting on the floor of an empty apartment
    the dispute is how many hours is being billed for this
    i told him he is gonna get nailed for it he doesnt think so
    2 ton unit old condenser (6 months old)wouldnt work

    How many hours is he billing you for? Is he replacing a compressor?

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    All depends.

    There is no answer.
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

    "Just get it done son."

    Dad adjusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacvegas View Post
    All depends.

    There is no answer.

    I agree, it is what it is, third floor?

    Hauling torches, nitrogen, refrigerant, recovery machine, recovery tank, tool bag into apartment from where in the parking lot?

    Hauling it all back. Young guy or old guy like me that moves slower?

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    hes not billing me
    and he did have to haul a torch and vac. and gear but its first floor apt.
    so let me rephrase how long would it take you will all your gear in the room to change out a compressor-start to finish on the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    I agree, it is what it is, third floor?

    Hauling torches, nitrogen, refrigerant, recovery machine, recovery tank, tool bag into apartment from where in the parking lot?

    Hauling it all back. Young guy or old guy like me that moves slower?
    I agree also, I have a building downtown that is an old converted warehouse...you need a security badge, the only parking is 1/2 block away (you can borrow a trash cart to put EVERYTHING in, but there is always something still in the truck ) wait for the elevator.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubioishere2 View Post
    hes not billing me
    and he did have to haul a torch and vac. and gear but its first floor apt.
    so let me rephrase how long would it take you will all your gear in the room to change out a compressor-start to finish on the job
    What kind of torches? How far did he have to walk to wet his rags? Oxy or btank? What kind of compressor? If he could unbraze the old compressor, how many ounces of braze were on each joint..................

    And so on, and so on, and so on. I could go all day with this.

    There is no answer. It takes what it takes.

    So if he said "hard to say", he won. If he said it takes him X hours, he wins, because it's what it takes him.

    So, you lose.
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

    "Just get it done son."

    Dad adjusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubioishere2 View Post
    Hello
    I am having an on going dispute with someone so I need the pro's to settle this.
    How long would it take you to :
    1-reclaim
    2-remove
    3-replace
    4-vaccum down
    a magicpak condenser
    anyone may answer I am just trying to find out who is right him or me
    I thank all who respond
    Greg
    that's a very easy question! are you paying by the job or by the hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    I agree, it is what it is, third floor?

    Hauling torches, nitrogen, refrigerant, recovery machine, recovery tank, tool bag into apartment from where in the parking lot?

    Hauling it all back. Young guy or old guy like me that moves slower?
    Those things have no service access valves, they're under the small appliance rules.
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    Just noticed OP said "his friend" had this unit in his basement, and this disagreement was with his "friend".

    Where did this unit come from, and how did it become an uninstalled piece of equitment?
    Who is reinstalling this unit?
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

    "Just get it done son."

    Dad adjusted

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