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07-30-2011, 09:24 AM #1
Time for a new electrical meter....
My Simpson 260 has got a lot of miles on it and just took a nasty fall that cracked and broke it pretty badly.
Am looking for a comparable digital meter.
I've heard a lot of good about the Fluke 87.
Thoughts and suggestions?
07-30-2011, 09:37 AM #2
One of the companies I used to work for supplied our meters. They supplied the fluke 85 (very similar to the 87). It is a great meter but I did NOT LIKE IT FOR FIELD SERVICE. Too many ranges,too many buttons. A good meter for electronics but not for field service. I just bought the Fluke 116 and I love it. Johnstone has it on sale in august for $149.95. I paid $154.95 plus $10.00 shipping from grainger but I needed it now and I didn't know it was going on sale. Those old Simpsons were the best! Accurate, dependable,durable, let us observe a moment of silence in the passing of a faithful servant.Challenge yourself, take the CM test --- Certificate Member since 2004 ---Join RSES ---the HVAC/R training authority ---www.rses.org
07-30-2011, 09:57 AM #3Professional Member
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the 116 is a good meter but if you have the need for 4-20 ma it will not work for you. The 87 is a very good meter, but a little bulky to me for everyday use. It is less cumbersome than the 260 though.
07-30-2011, 10:22 AM #4
I vote for the 28 ii. It is the 87-5's big brother. ( it is a little bigger overall) but water proof and that drop your simpson took would not put a scratch on the 28. I use it everyday. I got used the the size..Gotta have the right tool for the job!
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07-30-2011, 12:30 PM #5
This isn't an 'everyday' meter, but rather a 'go-to' meter.
Grounded compressors, flame signals, temperature sensors (precision DC readings) etc.
Regular 'everyday' work is handled by a Fluke 322.
That ruggedized meter sounds like just the ticket for me. I'll look into that.
07-30-2011, 12:35 PM #6
The first GOOD meter I ever had. It was used to start with, but it worked as well or better than any other meter.
I've got a cheapie analog to get me by for now, but I don't trust it the same as that 260.
07-30-2011, 12:37 PM #7Professional Member
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I gave my 260 away 15 or so years ago to a worker of mine that didn't have a meter. I have regretted that ever sense.
Among several other Fluke multimeters that I have I think I would put my 189 up close to the Simpson for it's accuracy. I also use a 179 on a daily basis.
07-30-2011, 06:13 PM #8
I didn't think anyone used a 260 now a days, damn fine tool. Sorry to hear you lunched it.I'm not tolerating Political Correctness anymore, from now on it's tell it like it is.
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07-30-2011, 06:44 PM #9
I dont believe the simpson or any other analog meter has any sort of advantage in our biz.
I know guys who still use them......and I know guys who still use wiggies.....
Its a 10 percent world we live in so they work fine.... but in my opinion they are just to fragile to be lugging around.
07-31-2011, 12:34 AM #10
07-31-2011, 12:51 AM #11
write down your specs. While most front line HVAC DMMs will have the voltage range in AC, few can do millivolts DC. Most have the flame rectification, mfd, etc. but not all have temps in the range you may want even with a transducer. Then the big decisions is whether to buy a separate stand alone clamp, built-in, or as an attachment.
If you really want to get fancy, you can get meters with non-contact voltage detection, in-rush amps,etc.
Also look at their magnet hanger, probe storage, size and what attachments and extra leads you may want and what comes with it. If you have a digital manifold with clamps then this may affect your choice of meter, too.
I'm thinking about buying two new meters: Fieldpiece SC77 for front line then a Fluke 116 for backup/ second kit with the 322 clamp meter. For instance, on some calls you may be bouncing back and forth from AHU to condenser and it sucks lugging your gear back and forth. Also, if you set the Min/Max, they will log these values for you so you won't miss a trend.
The bottom line is, do your homework because this is probably your single most used tool next to a severalteen-in-one screw/nut driver.
Please let us know what you choose and how it works out.
07-31-2011, 08:38 AM #12
07-31-2011, 09:19 AM #13
If you want some insight on how meters are constructed, go on youtube to "eevblog multimeter" and watch Dave Jones, (an electronics design engineer) he tears apart a fluke 117 and a fluke 85 and discusses quality of construction etc. There is also a $100.00 meter comparison of about 5 or so different meters. Check out eevblog #15 about fluke 189/289. This meter does it all! datalogging and ability to download to your pc for only $600.00.
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