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  1. #40
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    Wow okay. Know ptac's well.

    Just wondering how they could be used on a high rise.

    Have we really stooped that low now in this country?

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    eiither they be air cooled with that opening on the building for the condenser air, or they go with water cooled WSHPs and ace the hot water coil and maintain the loop water during the winter...another WSHP type is the Mammoth brands that mount in the ceiling and above closets in the laundry rooms then they are ducted out to the nearest corner wall but no exposed ducts.designer like these so you don't have boxed units in front of windows on the floors...
    "when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qEZHhJubY

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxster View Post
    you have to see the DONALD...as in TRUMP with his buildings hi end residentials $5-$10 million dollar ranges PTACs all the way around with a CB panel per suite/condo and the owner pays the bill.he used Ice-Caps in that east side black condo hi rise..and rumor had it they went out of business where his engineers wanted 10% stored change outs as part of the install.they didn't even run a condensate riser with the units slinging the condensate out the condenser fan section...2 Cleaver Brooks boilers gas fired...couple of rooftops for gyms,lobby and common areas ..and off he goes to his next The Apprentice show.big chillers and recip package units over 50 tons call for a local 94 union engineer and coffee pot making $80,000 a yr...not happening with Trump http://www.trumpworldtower.com/index.html
    And I bet the contractor lost money on this job,this guy screws everyone !

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    i heard just thru job talk he almost put them ICE -CAP out of business..see that Domino Sugar Plant in Brooklyn on the east river next to the Willy B..definitly WSHPs made it into condos $$$$$$
    "when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qEZHhJubY

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    A friend of mine lost 1 million on one of his jobs,not only on paying,but wasting the fitters time.

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    he definitly hangs the carrot out to contractors with future jobs to get the current job done cheap.there a glut of hi end condos he can build all he wants but if nobody buys or fine better deals he is extended on his wallet Empire City /Yonkers Raceway owned by the football Rooney's is getting ready to break ground for a $40 million dollar hotel casino right in one of the parking lots off the 87 Thruway there.he big plans for a wedding catering hall down in Jones Beach went south with the EPA and Albany changes with Andy Cuomo running it now
    "when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qEZHhJubY

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    It's also the GC they make you do jobs like his,they say the next one will make it up to you, yea right !

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    I see hotels using WSHP to recover heat for hot water needs, showers and cool side of building. Significant expense to heat water. PTAC too costly in older building to install.

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