I am posting this because i was working for a company for 2 weeks and found out one of the people training me was illegally venting refrigerant into the atmosphere because he was to lazy to do it the right way. I informed him the first time about him venting refrigerant and he did it again to bleed out a pre charged 410A unit. the line set for the unit was about a 20 foot run and because of that the refrigerant charge on gauges was showing to high so he hooked up his gauges to the unit on the suction line and put his neutral into a bucket of water and let it go until he was reading 150 on low side.
I understand the EPA has guidelines for this but I was wondering if a story is enough to report this individual.
P.S. Found out this same guy was the one who got me fired saying i was getting in his way and not ready to do maintenance on units which was total bs but yah thats another story.
Last edited by Rmorales; 07-22-2011 at 10:23 PM.
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Here is the way I see it, venting refrigerant into the atmosphere is illegal, unprofessional, and irresponsable. reagdless of how we feel about the EPA and some of there regulations. It is our responsibility to obey the laws set forth and carry on in a professional manner.
But reporting someone is just opening up a whole other can of worms and you don't want to go there. Just leave well enough alone and go on with you business. One of these days he will be venting when so government offical to tree hugger is watching and he will get a hard lesson.
The EPA will send you a form to fill out. Doubt anything will happen to him from the EPA itself. The company could receive some large finds, probably do to paper work not showing recovery. And then the company may terminate him.
Just write a letter to the company. And they may then figure out how he said you were getting in his way.
Call the freon police..............
go beat his a$$ ! ... yea no not really as grown ups we cant do that fun stuff .
Off topic a little. But as a new empoyee confronting the guy training you and reviewing you to the boss was foolish IMO. Yea venting is wrong blah blah blah, but do you want to feed your family or be right? Go save a tree in your spare time.
The EPA has enough people destroying business in the USA they don't need volunteers.
Never argue with a crazy man.
While it is admirable you care so much about the laws, but how about Mexico, China, India and a host of other countries still producing, using and releasing into the atmosphere R-12?
Originally Posted by Diceman
I called the freon police once. I was just so mad I had to "vent".
Perhaps the better approach would have been to keep a diary, and a year later, after proving your worth, then have a talk with the boss.
Your way is technically correct, but realistically, not wise.
At this point, it will look like you are retaliating because you were let go. You will have no credibility as a result of that dynamic.
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You need good, sound documentation to get this guy! If you have more than 1 witness and or a video or pictures or whatever of this A#$hole doing this than hang him! Turn it into the epa. But caution if the company finds out it was you and you do not have credible evidence against this guy and they come after you for trying to give them a bad rep. then be where! Would have been a better decision to nail him if you were not terminated! Sounds like a unhappy fired employee revenge story, even though it may not!
Originally Posted by timebuilder
Think of it this way: Would you be thinking of turning him in had you not been fired?
As per venting in itself, I would not want to work with unprofessional people anyway. If he is willing to break laws, what else is he willing to do? I wouldn't want a person like that working in my home. It only takes a little time to do it right.