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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by ResponsibleHeat View Post

    all because this is about to die
    That thing looks bigger than 200 tons.
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    It takes three people to do anything around here. Two do the work, one explains to the crowd of people who showed up when they seen smoke and flames.

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    It is, 420 to be exact, but this place is at 50% production.

  3. #16
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    We run tested the xa in the shop, unfortunately I wasn't there. U know it has a new interface than the comfort link I'm used to, fingers crossed.

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    Had me worried. The checkout and start-up on that big boy will take most of a day. I believe on a 30XA that Carrier has to do the start-up for warranty to be in effect.

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    You are correct, that was done in our shop. I'll be doing the onsite start up.

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    Wow! Is there a reason Carrier didn't do the start-up on site?

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    Having worked for the big C for the last 13 yrs , I have never done a startup at a "shop " only to be taken out to the jobsite to be installed.The "application " of the machine is part of the startup.It usually takes most of the day for a proper startup.I have done several , one being a 500 ton machine.

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    As Budglo has said the commissioning has to be done onsite and takes a a lot longer than 2 hours, Don't know about the USA but here in the UK you wouldn't have any warranty unless Carrier commissioned it. Curious as to what you have done in a 2 hour commissioning ?

    Best you hope your local Carrier Warranty department are not reading this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    As Budglo has said the commissioning has to be done onsite and takes a a lot longer than 2 hours, Don't know about the USA but here in the UK you wouldn't have any warranty unless Carrier commissioned it. Curious as to what you have done in a 2 hour commissioning ?

    Best you hope your local Carrier Warranty department are not reading this thread.
    Correct ,no factory startup =no warranty.I have started up several.Two were 500 tons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    As Budglo has said the commissioning has to be done onsite and takes a a lot longer than 2 hours, Don't know about the USA but here in the UK you wouldn't have any warranty unless Carrier commissioned it. Curious as to what you have done in a 2 hour commissioning ?

    Best you hope your local Carrier Warranty department are not reading this thread.
    It's all dependent on the contractor. If it's an emergency type of job and the contractor knows his stuff then carrier will come in after the startup for an official one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoodlistener View Post
    It's all dependent on the contractor. If it's an emergency type of job and the contractor knows his stuff then carrier will come in after the startup for an official one.
    Not on large equipment.If the contractor starts it before the factory does the startup, they now own the equipment.If its an emergency situation, the contractor works it out with the local Carrier office to be there when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budglo View Post
    Not on large equipment.If the contractor starts it before the factory does the startup, they now own the equipment.If its an emergency situation, the contractor works it out with the local Carrier office to be there when needed.
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    I don't understand why Carrier would do a factory startup at the shop and then do another factory startup onsite. I also wouldn't think that a factory startup at the shop would be sufficient as the application is a major part of the startup. I've done many emergency startups onsite and out of town. Just needs to be coordinated.

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