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  1. #14
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    You may want to consider completely ditching the oil if your electric rates are reasonable. If less than $.07/KW-Hr, I think you'll be ahead even with pure resistance heat with the current oil prices (unless you get yours real cheap).

    You can do the math to see where the crossover point is for raw electric -vs- oil. For me, last year was borderline and this year was a no brainer -- electric much cheaper (the cross over was around $2/gallon).

    The fly in the ointment is do you have enough electrical capacity to have a large resistance heater. If not, you need to weigh the costs of an electrical service upgrade with those of the premium for oil and the yearly costs of cleaning your oil furnace. For me, the environmental risks of a 40 year old buried tank leak had an infinite price.

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    thanks for the info
    i have 100 amp panel so its oil /heatpump combo right now. If and thats a big IF the neighbourhood survey agrees to gas then we will get gas next yr at that time Iwill put in gas furnace with hp for primary heat.

    elect is abt 6 cents kwhr oil is 1.069 per LITRE thats 4 dollars a gallon approx with incentives etc its said it will cost me an average of 160 a month if I go on a plan thats the cost spread over 12 months yr even if it costs me 100 month in electricty I'm ahead
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    Look to see what that gas is going to cost you when you actually get it. For me, it was going to cost $5000 to extend the line about 300' to my house and another 100' in my yard. In addition, they charge you higher rates for about 10 years to pay for this extension. At $.06 KW-hr, electric resistance may even be cheaper than or close to gas. Gas isn't always cheaper. If oil costs you $4/gallon, I wonder if gas is heavily taxed too.

    If you want gas anyway (for clothes drying, water heating, and cooking), then it probably makes sense to have it for heating too. But you'll have a lot of infrastructure to change if those items aren't gas now (need new equipment, a gas line run, and venting).

    You'll need at least a 200A service for a heat pump or electric resistance central heater. If you don't want air conditioning, I'd really think about heat pump -vs- electric resistance. Much of Vancouver is fairly mild, so you may not recover your costs on a heat pump. If your power rates skyrocket, then you could add a heat pump to your central electric air handler if you plan ahead and buy the proper unit.

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    Originally posted by The Penguin

    I have a 2000 sq ft home not including the basement/crawlspace built in the mid fifties with newer double glazed windows.

    1. how much oil can I expect to comsume with a tstat temp set on 67 deg 24 hrs a day.
    In the middle of winter, figure at least 4 gallons a day where you are. If you're sure you'll be paying about $1 per LITER for #2 fuel oil, don't burn fuel oil, you'll go broke. Is that what oil really costs in Canada.....it can't be, that's horrendous!



    Originally posted by The Penguin
    2. is home heating oil essently disel oil with some additives?
    Home heating oil is a lesser grade of diesel, it does not have the additives typically that will prevent gelling. Home heating oil also has a dye put in it here in the States, to signify it does NOT have road taxes applied. Diesel is typically clear meaning it's got taxes applied to it.....truckers could easily burn #2 fuel, but the dyed color would foil that effort. Big Brother at its best!



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    So thanks guys I'm a commercial ac/heat guy by trade (but no oil experience ) I only do resid for friends rels and cockroaching jobs.
    As I understand from my neighbour bc gas does not charge for the infrstructure if they are piping in the whole neighbourhood

    SO I was right you can burn diesl in your home furnace
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