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  1. #66
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    you cant even begin to compare the goodman in disquise amana to the trane, you can get a quote on American Standard, as they make trane & in my opinnion the American Standard outdoor units are more appealing to the eye. I can say from experience that the Heritage 16 will satisfy beyond the your expectations. you can even imagine the savings, comfort & performance.

  2. #67
    Well after scouring this site now for a week or two, asking lots of questions, and doing my HVAC-Calc Load Analysis, I finally feel my homework is complete. I HAVE FINALLY MADE UP MY MIND! Here is the Equiptment that I am going to have my installer order:

    Hvac Calc Analysis
    ----------------------
    Sensible Gain 23,586
    Latent Gain 4,247
    Total Heat Gain 27,833
    Total Heat Loss 64,284


    3Ton XL16i Heat Pump (36,000 BTUH) Model:4TWX6036
    3Ton VS Air Handler (37,000 BTUH) Model:4TEE3F37
    Trane Three-stage heat,Two-stage Cool Thermostat Model:TCONT802
    Trane 5" Media Filter 23.5" Model:TFM235A0AH1
    Trane 15kw Electric Heat Model:BAYHTR1415BRKA
    (4) 6" Snow Legs Model:BAYLEGS002

    Can any of you guys verify these Model Numbers or fill in the blanks for the ones I couldn't find.

    [Edited by ifucdseeme on 10-28-2005 at 12:05 AM]

  3. #68
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    That air handler is 23.5" wide, so you need the TFM235A0AH1 air cleaner if you want the 5" disposable cartridge, or the TFM235A0AH0 if you want the 5" expandable media. I havn't looked at what the performance difference is between the cartridge and the expandable media, we always use the cartridge ones though.

    The 6" high snow leg base and cap kit: BAYLEGS002
    If you need 10", there is also a 4" extension for the above: BAYLEGS003
    I have never seen the snow leg kit for these unit, so I have no clue what it looks like.

    Trane doesn't make a return air box for the air handler to stand on. If that configuration is common in your area, the distributor may stock some made by a 3rd party though.

    [Edited by mark beiser on 10-27-2005 at 11:54 PM]
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

  4. #69
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    Originally posted by dash
    Where?There's a difference only if you are close by and there's a lot of surf,so salt spray is a factor.
    This is very true. Just being near salt water is not harmful. I installed a Rheem heat pump in my parents condo that lasted nearly twenty years. That heat pump was on a first level porch about 8 feet from a brackish bay and about a half mile from the Atlantic Ocean.

    Sure...the coils took a beaten and the aluminum fins were deteriorated pretty bad after twenty years, but for being surrounded by salt water and right on a brackish bay, it certainly did not do bad.

    As Carnak will attest to though, with a heavy salt spray and very salty constant breezes, the Trane coils held up much better then any of the copper/aluminum coils did. However, this was under the most extreme salt conditions you could have without soaking the units in the Dead Sea.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


  5. #70
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    If space will allow, consider stepping up to the 40 air handler, that will get you 17 SEER and a 9.2 HSPF, and that filter you have listed there will fit also

  6. #71
    Thanks Mark,

    I have updated my post, with the info you supplied. Are there any changes or additions to the equiptment list that I should make?

  7. #72
    Originally posted by swampfox
    If space will allow, consider stepping up to the 40 air handler, that will get you 17 SEER and a 9.2 HSPF, and that filter you have listed there will fit also
    I was originally quoted this system with a 4TEE3F40A (40,000 BTUH) AirHandler/Coil but after doing my HVAC_Calc load calculations I beleive the smaller 4TEE3F37A will be better match for my home, and will help reduce humidity in the sticky months here in PA.

  8. #73
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    Where in PA are you? I'm in Lancaster County just south of Lancaster city.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


  9. #74
    Originally posted by RoBoTeq
    Where in PA are you? I'm in Lancaster County just south of Lancaster city.
    Hell RoBo you are only about 40 miles from me. I am in Mechanicsburg, just a short trip up 283N and your here. So, why arn't you doing this install? Theres a bottle of Tequila in it for you.

    [Edited by ifucdseeme on 10-28-2005 at 01:17 AM]

  10. #75
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    fayetteville, nc
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    amana vs trane

    Hey guys, seems you've done a great job of helping the PA guy decide what is best for him and answered a Whole lot of my questions too. But I also need to decide between two contractors, (Initial got 5 bids) one is an older fella been doing this 35yrs and figured faster in his head than i did on paper and designed ducts on paper in a few mins. (rough but general idea) and a younger guy 3rd generation contractor with computer who says it will take 2 hrs to due load calc and design duct work right by tran standards. They both sound like they know what they are doing and promise to stand by their work etc. But they offer two different packages, Amana (13 seer) the highest he had to offer, and a trane (14 seer). They all agreed i need a 3.5 ton unit so I just need some more info on what package would work best in NC. I've heard/read a lot of conflicting reports on both as far as durability, repair records, efficiency etc. Please any advice is appreciated. kathy

  11. #76
    Hey RoBo,

    Do you have an email address I can send you a note to see if you know anything about the company I am going to choose to do my install?

  12. #77
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    Email address is in my profile. I travel through Mechanicsburg several times a week.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


  13. #78
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    klputman926, are you saying that this is a "packaged" unit, as in one unit outside with heat and air combined that needs to be ducted into the house?
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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