Oh yet ANOTHER typical install from my company!

[PaysonHVAC]

Got sent out for a possible no cool at a shelter in SOUTH Phoenix.






They installed a new system within the last few months. Since the last time I was here anyway.






You've got all of your typical traits that must be TAUGHT habits at this company.

Starting with NEVER tightening king valve caps. note the amount of oil and dirt film around the caps already!





Two of three schrader caps had NO ORINGS. They must have dropped them...





And they must have known, because you can see teeth marks of plyers or something where someone tightened the snot out of this plastic cap missing the o-ring.


I have to carry a **** load of new schrader caps because of these guys.




Then back up to this lovely attic I so much enjoy each maintenance/breakdown call I get here.





They installed this new air handler.
Note something FISHY about the secondary drain line???

Looks like it's going to do a lot of good.






And here's what pisses me off about this install depo and the **** jobs they do.

There is a smaller air handler right behind this larger one. It was a ***** to access before. And they just went and installed this new unit right back in front of it.
Good luck ever removing THAT blower!


I looked around. there was PLENTY of room to flip the unit and install between the next set of trusses. Then it would have been much better where I could have walked in between the two units, having the access panels facing each other (with 30 inches of space) and been able to access them both.

Fukk n a, but they would have had to do some extra thinking and cut out a section of hard duct for that. And since this is ALL piece work....

You get the idea. BLOW and GO!

[mark beiser]

If I worked for your company, one of 3 things would have happened within the first month.

1.) Fired for making a stink over this **** and calling them on it each and every time, and explaining to the customers why what they got was substandard crap.

2.) Quit, making as much noise as I could on the way out, burning all bridges behind me, and telling customers why what they got was substandard crap.

3.) Multiple life sentences for going postal and killing everyone in the company I could get to before the cops pulled me down.

[smilies]

Originally posted by PaysonHVAC



They installed this new air handler.
Note something FISHY about the secondary drain line???

Looks like it's going to do a lot of good.

That's good!!

[craig1]

it looks like that secondary drain was at one time tied into the main drain line. when they started up the unit, they noticed the condensated was backing up into the secondary pan, so they cut it out, flipped the secondary drain up 90 degrees and put a coupling in the main drain

[PaysonHVAC]

Originally posted by mark beiser
If I worked for your company, one of 3 things would have happened within the first month.

1.) Fired for making a stink over this **** and calling them on it each and every time, and explaining to the customers why what they got was substandard crap.

2.) Quit, making as much noise as I could on the way out, burning all bridges behind me, and telling customers why what they got was substandard crap.

3.) Multiple life sentences for going postal and killing everyone in the company I could get to before the cops pulled me down.

WOW Mark. I knew people would call it CRAP. But that was very interesting


Yeah. I definitely try to let them know about the problems.
Sad thing is that to MOST people I know around here, they all think this is NORMAL around here. And think we should just deal with it since "it's the trade we chose to be in", etc yada yada...

Where I was from, more than one installer had pride, so it was actually easy to spot the HACK where down here a great deal is truly hacked. I will NEVER take this **** as being NORMAL.



I heard that one of the salesmen (consultants) is actually taking his own pix AFTER install and going back to the depo to have some things corrected. Smart man.
Makes sense. He wants it good so the customer is satisfied and gives him even more leads.


I've went as far as posting a few of these pix on the wall in the shop. But they never stay up very long



Craig, what's funny is how I've told many people down in this area that the secondary drain from the secondary pan and the secondary OUTLET of the primary pan is supposed to have it's OWN drain plumbed where you would notice it, NOT in the back 40 of a home, etc.
They think I make the **** up.

[maineiac513]

Company name change time to FUBAR HVAC. Does the owner or boss see these ? Why no change in performance.Time you found a better class of losers.

[joey791]

Originally posted by maineiac513
Company name change time to FUBAR HVAC. Does the owner or boss see these ? Why no change in performance.Time you found a better class of losers.

Been asking him why wont he leave, they trying to kill him with the junk he deals with over there, if you that busy Payson you better be making at least 40 an hour.

[PaysonHVAC]

Originally posted by joey791

Originally posted by maineiac513
Company name change time to FUBAR HVAC. Does the owner or boss see these ? Why no change in performance.Time you found a better class of losers.

Been asking him why wont he leave, they trying to kill him with the junk he deals with over there, if you that busy Payson you better be making at least 40 an hour.

I WISH. The guys doing the hacking probably make more than me in the end. More money vs. less time invested = bigger bonus!

[heatpumpjesus]

you do replace the plastic caps with brass ones, right? I know you probably do, but I had to ask.

[PaysonHVAC]

Originally posted by heatpumpjesus
you do replace the plastic caps with brass ones, right? I know you probably do, but I had to ask.

DO they even SELL plastic caps????