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  1. #27
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    Originally posted by James 3528
    Nothing is free and a couple year old commercial anything doesn't have a high resale. You don't look at the resale on a commercial vehicle.
    I didn't pay anything extra for my bin package, as good as free in my book (no goofy numbers games, either). There were "extra cost" packages, but the extra sure seemed reasonable.

    The new commercial buyer may not consider resale, but a used van is a hell of a lot less than a new one.

    For the price of a new Chevy or Ford, I would go right on over to Dodge and get a Sprinter. No bin packages last time I checked, though.
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    "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too little.
    When you pay too much, you lose a little money -- that is all. When you pay too little, you may lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.

    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot -- it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run. And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."

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    You really ought to step back and think about getting a bin package for free and who is really paying for it. The bin packages in Fords case are put in by a 3rd party at another site. Not only is the bin package covered up in the price of the van but moving the van to the 3rd party is in there.

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    penguin, I would not go with a short box. I havnt looked lately but I always thought about an extended cab with boxes so I could put in shelving for things I dont want in the weather at all behind the driver seat. . The only problem there is if someone looks in the windows and sees what you have , its only a broken window away. Now anyone that wants something bad enough can get it but if they dont see it , its stands a better chance. I know your looking at more like the toppers then utility boxes and with gas prices thats a lot less weight. I guess I would look at it as far as those slide in ones are tall enough to get more use out of the back of the truck. Most toppers with the side accesses I see used by electricans end up with the truck box crammed with boxes full of stuff that they have to unload to find anything. I would look at it in the long run being the older you get the less your kness are going to want any part of crawling in anything. lol

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    OK I got to ask...I know the term hack...but whats a "GASSER"???


    Engin chiller posted:
    "PROFESIONAL APPEARANCE: EVERY HACK AND GASSER OWNS A
    VAN."
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    I'm guessing that means GAS & GO service man.......no one that really fixes leaks or anything.

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    You got it , a real jerk. never repairs anything.


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    thank you..sorry to go off topic I was thinking it was a buch of us students that only ate taco bell
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    Originally posted by doglips
    OK I got to ask...I know the term hack...but whats a "GASSER"???


    Engin chiller posted:
    "PROFESIONAL APPEARANCE: EVERY HACK AND GASSER OWNS A
    VAN."
    Yes pretty dumb comment eh? Everyone that owns a van is a gasser. LOL .

    I think the van count in HVAC around here for service is about 4 or 5 to 1 truck.

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    Originally posted by engine chiller
    You got it , a real jerk. never repairs anything.

    That's just like saying that every co. that runs around in trucks are nothing more than one-man, fly-by-night operations.
    WHY?

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    they dont call me the Gas man because I gas and go Ha!
    I've been known to gag other tecks at times.

    But to get this thread back on track:


    What exactly do you like or dislike about a truck/cap setup on a full sized 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton pu 2wd please
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    Nothing at all. In fact, I have one. I guess it's whatever a tech prefers that matters.
    WHY?

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    Originally posted by James 3528
    You really ought to step back and think about getting a bin package for free and who is really paying for it. The bin packages in Fords case are put in by a 3rd party at another site. Not only is the bin package covered up in the price of the van but moving the van to the 3rd party is in there.
    I negotiated the price for my van, then when that was done, I told them that I would be buying it through the commercial program. No price changes.

    In retail, there are spiffs and other kickbacks to the parties involved. Not to mention that the larger number of non-commercial and over-the-counter retail customers likely subsidize the operation through higher markups. Maybe GM, Ford and Dodge eventually kick back a portion of the money, too.

    Yes, I understand that nothing is "free", but I sure as hell didn't pay any extra for the bins or transport to the shop that did the work. I did have to provide a vehicle for myself, though (no loaner).

    No different than those "free" trips dealers get for selling so many pieces of HVAC equipment... or the consumer "rebates" on high efficiecy/high markup combinations. Who pays for that?

    I'll take my free bins and shelves... Thanks
    Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

    "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too little.
    When you pay too much, you lose a little money -- that is all. When you pay too little, you may lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.

    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot -- it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run. And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."

    John Ruskin


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    Originally posted by The Penguin
    What exactly do you like or dislike about a truck/cap setup on a full sized 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton pu 2wd please
    I don't like them because they are even lower inside than a van. I worked out of one for a year, everything was always at the front of the bed...

    However, depending on where you work, the low height can be a good thing. Vans do not fit too well in parking garages.
    Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

    "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too little.
    When you pay too much, you lose a little money -- that is all. When you pay too little, you may lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.

    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot -- it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run. And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."

    John Ruskin


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