As a union sheet metal guy, I can tell you from personal experience that the company supplies less and less. In fact, the company I am working for now (that charges the highest rates in town) won't supply squat.Originally posted by gruvn
This sounds lke another union vs non union thread, in most unions you will be required to have about 300.00 dollars worth of hand tools, a basic set of simple tools, everything else will be bought by the company. I think non union requirements vary from place to place, but few of them buy everything as the union shops do.
And even though I am technically required to maintain a set of handtools (300.00 worth), The company I work for prefers that we just don't put any personal tools on our truck so that when there is a discrepancy ( truck stolen ) they know everything on the truck is theirs. So yes I think it is ridculous for an HVAC serviceman or installer to supply his own tools. Why don't you just buy the material for the job while your at it? Isn't it the same thing ? Isn't the customer paying the company for their ability their equipment their material and their insurance? Why should you pay for it the customer is paying for that stuff, Just another example of another union benefit that gets swept under the rug by the anti union party.
If my tool breaks on their job, I am the one that is SOL.
For a drill, they gave me a corded one- the first job I was sent to didn't have power. So, if you play their game, your hours on the job suck and you get fired, or you buy a drill that they are required to provide. The proverbial rock and a hard place.
Some shops even require the use of your truck, even though that is expressley forbidden in the contract. Things suddenly "get slow" for those that use a car in some shops, or refuse to carry the ladders, chainsaw and ductwork to the job (another item that is forbidden per contract- transport of employer tools and materials)
The "tool list" in my contract will set me back over $1k by the time it is all over, if you buy American made tools.
Personal experience is the employee that complains is soon looking for a job.
I feel like a subcontractor- without my piece of the pie.
[Edited by neophytes serendipity on 09-29-2005 at 07:07 PM]