e3 Echelon ilon 100!

[sysint]

Future Tridium killer

It's much less expensive than Tridium and it's easier to work with:

i.LON Vision

This exciting new Web authoring tool, which works with Macromedia Contribute (licensed separately), lets you:
[*] Create custom Web pages for the i.LON 100 e3[*]View any data points from the i.LON 100 by adding simple i.LON Vision objects in Contribute—no custom HTML, JavaScript, or SOAP calls required[*] Incorporate custom navigation trees and menus for your Web pages[*] Incorporate custom graphics from the i.LON Vision graphics library[*] Edit custom Web pages using any authoring tool, including Macromedia Dreamweaver

Also -- Optional IP-852 router for network expansion and for creating a high-speed backbone for large networks and Bridging LonWorks domains for network expansion.

We have been working with it awhile. Needs a little work on the Modbus side (to make it more convenient) but it works well.

Cost point is as excellent as ever.

[klrogers]

Sounds have Echelon have done it again, the iLONe2 was a big step forward allowing easy web access to LON. The e3 should put Echelon firmly in the lead for most small/medium LON only systems. Plus I see older ILON's are upgradable to e3.

[Edited by klrogers on 09-19-2005 at 06:01 PM]

[sysint]

Macromedia Contribute - that's big. Easy to use and cheap. All the guys out there that wondered when the graphics library would increase now have limitless options.

You are going to see ilon graphics that guys make that are really nice. (we are playing with flash graphics)

[sysint]

KL - Did you notice the Modbus interface? Do you need SiteLink for those Liebert jobs anymore?

Or, my other aggravation is using that Automated Logic Gateway/Portal on Semco and other manufacturers. They do LON in the most archaic way. Instead of blowing the bank on that accessory, add an ilon100 for 1/5 the cost and you have either Modbus or LON brought to the web.

[crab master]

I am wondering how that compares to the TAC 511/527? I haven't seen an ilon 100 in action, but with all that you are saying the 511/527 can do everything but get you directly on the lon network (RNI) for actual programming and snvt changes remotely. Does anyone have experience with both and what do you think?

[sysint]

I don't have 511 experience. However from the 511 datasheet it is doing 400 variables.

I've had ilons at 740+ NVE's and still utilize the NVL's onboard. In addition to the trending/alarming/scheduling.

Also the ilon e3 will act as router, VNI and RNI.

[crab master]

Okay thanks for the reply. They recently doubled the memory and maybe more in the 511, but I can't access the latest datasheets so I am not sure if the 400 bindable SNVTs is still the same. We have one monitoring, alarming and trending in a building with about 100 controllers. Not sure on the actual count on bindings being used but its got to be right at the max if not even over and no troubles.
I've checked some of the sites Echelon has linked on their but I see the biggest advantage with the ilon 100 combining the router with the device vs. needing 2 IP address and 2 devices.

[dapper]

sysint - does the "software upgrade" offer all the same functionality that you would get when you use a new e3? The hardware remains the same?

[sysint]

That would be a yes dap.

See you like it better already, don't you...

[dapper]

So sys - when will this be available? I havent seen any mention of it yet at Engenuity.

[bobby m]

i was wondering if someone familier with the ilon 100 controller could explain what its purpose is,does it replace the central controller that is used in non lon proprietary systems ? can you buy lon controllers and an ilon 100 to supervise them and than you have a complete system? or is it a way to interface a system to the internet. thanks ahead of time for replies.

[sysint]

Originally posted by dapper
So sys - when will this be available? I havent seen any mention of it yet at Engenuity.

My guess is 2 weeks.

i was wondering if someone familier with the ilon 100 controller could explain what its purpose is,does it replace the central controller that is used in non lon proprietary systems ?
LON is a fully distributed control system so even if a system didn't have an ilon it still doesn't have a central controller. Anyway it does the following (now):[*]RNI (remote network interface)[*]Webserver for displaying information on the Internet[*]Built in Scheduling/Trending/Alarming (if you want)[*]Modbus driver available to control Modbus devices. (and Meterbus)[*]VNI - which you can read up on to discern the answer to your second question.

can you buy lon controllers and an ilon 100 to supervise them and than you have a complete system? or is it a way to interface a system to the internet.

The ilon100 is the least expensive (internet) server on the market to give you a "complete" system linked to the internet. You can also use it as a router and have multiple subsystems working together on the Internet. You can also use the XML/SOAP interface and do things like send schedules from Microsoft Outlook into the ilon and schedule devices... Start dreaming...

[tac-dude]

Originally posted by crab master
Okay thanks for the reply. They recently doubled the memory and maybe more in the 511, but I can't access the latest datasheets so I am not sure if the 400 bindable SNVTs is still the same. We have one monitoring, alarming and trending in a building with about 100 controllers. Not sure on the actual count on bindings being used but its got to be right at the max if not even over and no troubles.
I've checked some of the sites Echelon has linked on their but I see the biggest advantage with the ilon 100 combining the router with the device vs. needing 2 IP address and 2 devices.

If I remember correctly, doubling the memory in the 511 only allows more storage for web pages and such. The binding limitation is based on the core of the 511 itself. BTW, do you use XBuilder for the 511/527?