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    TRANE UNIT high pressure problem

    Hi, I am new to this forum.
    Hopefully it'll be a good place to help each other out.

    I have 2 very similar cases with 2 very similar Trane Models.

    Model No. YCC060F1M0BJH
    SERIAL: 4352M542H

    I replaced the compressor bc it was bad.
    Now the high side is around 320PSI and low side is around 50psi.
    I put in 11.2lbs of r22 as the specifications state.
    Im pretty sure something is stopped up.
    This unit is at a dry cleaners and is probably around 100 degrees inside. outside temp was around 90 degrees.

    I replaced the compressor again and put in just 5 lbs of r22. the high side is now around 280-290psi and low side is still around 50-55psi.
    Air coming out is 74 degrees.
    I need a place to start.
    Any help would be appreciated

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    Well the discharge pressure looks pretty good for the OAT that you stated. Could the unit be undersized? You said that it was 100 inside, your temp drop over the coils is more than 20 deg looks pretty good. Is the evap coil clean? What are you SH and SC? How long ago was the compressor replaced the first time? Let us know.

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    are u saying u replaced the compressor twice because your pressure wasn't where u wanted it? .. your lacking info like matt said

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    I did not check SC and SH. evap and condensor looks clean.
    first compressor was changed 3 days before the second one. second time, we only charged 6.8lbs opposed to 11.2 lbs bc we were afraid it was going to blow again. so right now it is undercharged.

    Is there a way to check for restriction in the condensor?

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    I have two questions.

    1) Why was the first compressor replaced?

    2) Is HVAC you main business?
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    100 deg inside I'd like to see a higher suction press. Is the suction line cold?

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    Trane RTU first, split the condesor coil and clean it inside and out. did you replace the filter drier? next subcool!!! Trane has an issue with the distribution headers (Orfices) plugging up. look for frost after orfices. They came out with a new TXV header assembly for some rtu's

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    How do you split the coil?

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    I had one today, 2 stage trane rtu 25/300. I cut out the filter drier, and pushed about 40 lbs of nitro through it. I braised new drier in. then unsweat a joint b4 evap manifold and pushed more nitro through both sides. she running awesome now. 18 degree delta T

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    oh ya used bigger drier. idk whats up with those trane driers. they so small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeesService View Post
    evap and condensor looks clean.
    Never assume, always confirm. Going off of process of elimination, it sounds like you replaced the first compressor because of the same issue you are having now. Did you blow the lines out with nitrogen before installation? Did you pull a vacuum? Is this your first time working on the unit, if not, has it cooled well before "the compressor went out".

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    So your on your THIRD compressor? What was the problem with the FIRST one?
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    Hello Munc is right the condenser coils are split I believe. How do you split the coils Dave Sulz?. You remove the top, take the screws that hold the tube sheet together out, and split them then clean like crazy. You can't get the charge right until those coils are clean!!. With a 100 degree return temp your suction pressure should be thru the roof. Number one refrigerant rule temperature and pressure go together. Number two what happens to one side, happens to the other under normal conditions. A undersized unit under normal condition's would have high suction, high head due to our number one rule. I think you need to clean some coils and I totally agree with Munc look at the orifice's metering device, carrier had the same issue with that setup. And remember that a bad compressor if it running won't bring the suction down if the valves are bad, suction would be high. The compressor's are not your problem.

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