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    acid burnout requires a compressor filter change?

    My contractor replaced a 3 1/2 AC compressor ( Copelend) that failed via acid burnout. He used acid away and virgin Freon and the best part he left in the old gunked up contaminated compressor suction line Freon filter to feed the new copmpressor he put into service.

    Of coarse the new compressor failed in just 13 months...my question would any of you HVAC pros leave in the contaminated suction filter after replacing a compressor that failed via an acid burnout? Even Copeland will not tell me that the suction line filter must be replaced under the above conditions.

    if any of you pros have written instruction from Copelend that clearly state the filter must be replcaed please post the link to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomkat862 View Post
    My contractor replaced a 3 1/2 AC compressor ( Copelend) that failed via acid burnout. He used acid away and virgin Freon and the best part he left in the old gunked up contaminated compressor suction line Freon filter to feed the new copmpressor he put into service.

    Of coarse the new compressor failed in just 13 months...my question would any of you HVAC pros leave in the contaminated suction filter after replacing a compressor that failed via an acid burnout? Even Copeland will not tell me that the suction line filter must be replaced under the above conditions.

    if any of you pros have written instruction from Copelend that clearly state the filter must be replcaed please post the link to it
    that is BS assuming you have proof of the old filter being left in....

    question 23 , http://www.emersonclimate.com/en-US/...hnical.aspx#Q7


    you get em tiger .... dont let them weasel out of this crap!

    function "F" on page 3 http://mea.emersonclimate.com/mea/pdfs/tech/9304.pdf



    "oh!, im sorry sir, its ONE FRIGGIN MONTH OVER OUR 12 MONTH WARRANTY " thats what they are saying right ?

    i hate this crap .............. id jump the installing companies @$$ that is a low life scumbag way to do business !!!!!!!!!!!!

    section 37 page #16 http://mea.emersonclimate.com/mea/pdfs/tech/9304.pdf


    tellem to eat crow and die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this helps i hope,

    J.Hall
    Last edited by jeremyhall.tech.sc; 10-03-2011 at 01:40 AM.
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    The proof is the old suction line filter still hooked up Jerk.

    OP was referring to the contractor who left in the drier

    Cleaned up language
    Last edited by Chris_Worthington; 10-03-2011 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Cleaned up language

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    Complete and utter nonsense. You replace ALL filters, suction and discharge, ESPECIALLY after a burnout. Even if the tech has to cut the old suction filter and braze a piece of copper in place of it you HAVE to remove it. Doesn't matter who made the compressor or the actual condensing unit your contractor commited a cardinal sin.
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

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    Removed Quote.


    Was that really necessary tomkat?
    Last edited by Stamas; 10-03-2011 at 09:52 AM. Reason: Removed offensive quote?
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

    `. .` .>(((>

    `... `. .` .>(((>

    .` .>(((>

    LMAOSHMSFOAIDMT

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    Not a good response in my opinion tomkat862. If you go back and read Jeremy past post you will see he has always tried to help without being negative toward the op. Please remember the pros on this site give advice for free without asking for anything in return. So as a fellow non hvac person I must ask you to please not call the pros who take the time to answer questions names. I would personally hate to loose these guys as a resource for the average joe blow that needs help. If I took your post wrong please accept my apology for this post.
    Last edited by Stamas; 10-03-2011 at 09:53 AM. Reason: Removed DH

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    Hey guys the beat part is when I get this crook in front of the local Contractors review board. I swear he really screwed up I left the failed AC unit untouched by any HVAC pro.

    The Contractor Review board sent out an inspector to confirm the old filter was left inplace, All I wanted was for the crook to refund 90% of the $ he charged me.

    We have 2 each 3 1/2 ton units for our hone and each Copeelnd compressor lasted 15 to 17 years before replacing.

    Soory my first post I though I typed ..he's a Jerk I was not saying this to the replier

    if anyone had written standards to the effect that the filter must be replaced please post a link to it hear.

    The Crook contractor wrote me that I can not prove 100% that the compressor failure in just 13 months was caused by leaving in the old filter.

    I was surprised it even lasted 13 months as the gunk in the filter must have caused hell in the system.
    Last edited by Chris_Worthington; 10-03-2011 at 10:04 AM. Reason: price and Cleaned up language

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomkat862 View Post
    The proof is the old suction line filter still hooked up .......
    im trying to help you ? now call the kettle black again will ya?

    i know youre frustrated ive seen this scenario many times and im all for helping you but dude you just insulted me for doing so ........... thats about all the help you're getting from me.......

    J.Hall
    Last edited by Stamas; 10-03-2011 at 09:58 AM. Reason: Removed DH
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    wow that went down fast!!!!!!! glad to know its a misunderstanding and you arent insulting me. now go edit that post will ya?

    catch a man a fish , feed him for a day.
    teach a man to fish , ruin a good business opportunity.

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    Sorry Jeremy.... I thought I type he's a Removed..

    This was not directed to you my typing skill need more works

    Thanks for the links.

    This Crook contractor claimed he put in over 800 compressors and ours was the only failure ....

    what he really means is the guy he bought this business name from put in 800 compressor before he retired...The fool I hired was a total joke.

    Do not post anymore prices or use language like this here.
    Last edited by Stamas; 10-03-2011 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Language

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomkat862 View Post
    Sorry Jeremy.... I thought I type he's a ......

    This was not directed to you my typing skill need more works

    Thanks for the links.

    This Crook contractor claimed he put in over 800 compressors and ours was the only failure ....

    what he really means is the guy he bought this business name from put in 800 compressor before he retired...The fool I hired was a total joke.
    it happens (a lot actually) . and im not gonna play sides because ive been on both ends of this raw deal.

    how ever , documentation and lots of pictures will get you through this battle.

    get a written proposal youll probably have to go to the phone book and pay a service fee to get a company to the door for a appraisal of the system and its situation, mabey two or three and keep the written advice and the invoices....

    or just go kick this installer in the balls ........ no nevermind dont do that sorry!

    i feel your pain and i hate that a company as big a emmerson/scroll doesnt have the balls to own up and say yes its a horrible mistake and we want to fix the issue ................ they do have field techs you know? id call and schedule an app.t and give it to them hard.
    Last edited by Stamas; 10-03-2011 at 10:01 AM. Reason: Same
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomkat862 View Post
    Hey guys the beat part is when I get this crook in front of the local Contractors review board. I swear he really screwed up I left the failed AC unit untouched by any HVAC pro.

    The Contractor Review board sent out an inspector to confirm the old filter was left inplace, All I wanted was for the crook to refund 90% of the $ he charged me.

    We have 2 each 3 1/2 ton units for our hone and each Copeelnd compressor lasted 15 to 17 years before replacing.

    Soory my first post I though I typed ..he's a ..... I was not saying this to the replier

    if anyone had written standards to the effect that the filter must be replaced please post a link to it hear.

    The Crook contractor wrote me that I can not prove 100% that the compressor failure in just 13 months was caused by leaving in the old filter.

    I was surprised it even lasted 13 months as the gunk in the filter must have caused hell in the system.
    do not rely on them! follow the above advice and place the items acquired in a folder and take with you the day of the review.........
    Last edited by Stamas; 10-03-2011 at 10:02 AM. Reason: price in quote
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    check out these videos on the scrolls performance.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapg3FbD9Es

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPhth...eature=related

    thesse are tough machines only IDIOTS kill them prematurely!!!!!

    i hate when guys dont take blame for their faults , what i hate even more is the companies like emmerson/ copeland that let them do it by showing no support for the customer who bought their products in the first place...........



    anyway , flame over ..............
    catch a man a fish , feed him for a day.
    teach a man to fish , ruin a good business opportunity.

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