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  1. #14
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    YOU WOULD CALL ME "MONKEY BOY" 1 time and then you and that dirty coil would become one. I may be fired but you would be picking aluminum out of your A$$ for so long you would never forget "monkey Boy"

  2. #15
    Hey ct2
































    Get that coil clean today


























    """MONKEY BOY"""









    Just climb up on that condenser and clean it OK, act like the hose is you tail, I want to see you jumpin around up there, now get to it.I'll check back with you aafter lunch I got to make some phone calls and pick up some parts. !!!





    You want a bannana ?

    [Edited by gruvn on 09-08-2005 at 07:04 AM]

  3. #16
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    I clean the condensor coils on every system I service. If there are multiple systems, I'll clean the condensor coils in them all, even if I was only out for a problem with one system.

    It is amazing how dirty a condensor coil that looks clean can be.

    I clean condensor coils before I check the refrigerant charge. Evaperator coils usually are not easy to inspect or clean, so I only really dig into them if the pressures, SH, SC and temp drop through the system indicate the need to.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

  4. #17
    Thats ridiculuous Mark, You are saying that you always clean the coil ? GEEZ O MAN, come on dude, get real.

  5. #18
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    Gruvn
    I understand that apprentices get to do all the fun work....and I'm sure that when I get out of school, Ill be doing all the stuff you old timers don't want to do...that's cool and that's why right out of school we expect to get paid at least twice what the senior tech makes ..got to pay your dues...but seems like your trying to start a flame war ...for no reason....and btw if my employer called me monkey boy Id quit on the spot. Respect goes both ways.

    The reason for the ?? I posted was to see how real world techs do things...compared to any school's often fantasy world of a/c repair. I expected some people to clean coils, some not to, and depending on what part of the country they are in to have more or less reason to clean them.
    73% of Americans say that illegal immigration is a problem. The other 27% say, "No habla inglis!"

  6. #19
    Well when you post a question on here you will find out that you will get many different points of view on one subject. You need to decipher for yourself which ones apply to you.

    So you wanted real world answers to your world question and I gave you one, If there is a coil to be washed and an apprentice is available, guess who is going to wash it. And yes you will get laughed at, mayb not called monkey boy but you will get laughed at, unless your doing residential or something, I'm talking about real heating & cooling equipment, the commercial type.

    So good luck,

  7. #20
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    GRUVN,
    You have a bad additude. You are either someone with experience and a complete jerk OR, you're a cronic poster of stupid comments.
    Either way, having clean coils is a sure way to get the most accurate pressure reading and a sure way to keep your customers by going the extra mile. Your actions will speak volumes. If you're in business for yourself, cleaning coils is not above anyone unless, that is ofcourse you intend to go out of business real fast.
    If you work for a company, your additude would surely create a living hell for any helper you have,they'll quit and you'll be cleaning coils by yourself.
    If your a cronic poster of stupid comments,stop playing with yourself and go out and get a life.
    P.S.- You do wipe your ass after crapping right? After all, it's all part of the job!

  8. #21
    Originally posted by newstart
    GRUVN,
    You have a bad additude. You are either someone with experience and a complete jerk OR, you're a cronic poster of stupid comments.


    Newstart : Either way, having clean coils is a sure way to get the most accurate pressure reading


    Gruvn : Ok so the only way to get a correct reading is to have a clean coil. Well this will be news to the gage manufacturers , they were under the impression that they could accurately set those gages in their gage factories.Why would the condition of the coil affect whether the gage reads accurate or not ? you got me on this one ( roll eyes a lot)



    Newstart: and a sure way to keep your customers by going the extra mile.

    Gruvn : So lets see if I clean the col I keep the customer ? no matter how many other things may not work when you leave ? Hmmm interesting.


    Newstart : Your actions will speak volumes. If you're in business for yourself, cleaning coils is not above anyone unless, that is ofcourse you intend to go out of business real fast.

    Gruvn : ok, so we are the same as window wasgers ?

    If the window isn't clean they don't call you back to clean the window next time right ?

    Well we are not window cleaners, here's a scoop fpr you " we provide comfort, comfort is our product. Get that straight, do you think any customer gives a crap how pretty their unit looks if they are sweating, stay focused on the end product, comfort.




    Newstart : If you work for a company, your additude would surely create a living hell for any helper you have,they'll quit and you'll be cleaning coils by yourself.


    Gruvn : This statement shows your inexperience in your chosen field, as do the others but this one more than the rest.They have the perogative to quit, and I have the perogative to find someone else, it's up to them.


    Newstart : If your a cronic poster of stupid comments,stop playing with yourself and go out and get a life.

    Gruvn : I have a life , a very busy one, and my comments are not stupid, they may be the raw truth but they are not stupid, just some of the readers of them are.


  9. #22
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    Originally posted by gruvn
    Originally posted by newstart


    Gruvn : Ok so the only way to get a correct reading is to have a clean coil. Well this will be news to the gage manufacturers , they were under the impression that they could accurately set those gages in their gage factories.Why would the condition of the coil affect whether the gage reads accurate or not ? you got me on this one ( roll eyes a lot)

    The guages do read the pressure accurately, but is it the pressures they are supposed to be, or is the unit overcharged to get teh press you want to see.

    I think the others may be trying to state that you have a blatent disrespect for other people, and are ignorant enough to tell everyone that still cleans a coil they are beneath you.

    Quite honestly, I cant think of anyone above me, and not many below me either.

  10. #23
    Whats all this talk about gages reading wrong because the coil is dirty? Th gage just reads the pressure , the gage doesn't care one iota if the coil is clean or not it just wants to read the pressure.Think about it for a while and get back to me.

  11. #24
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by gruvn
    You can no ttell if a coil is dirty by loking at it,

    Do I clean them before taking pressures ?

    No, I don' tknow if they need cleaned til I put my gauges on or feel around on the pipes, and if they need cleaned I set it up for the apprentice , I don't clean any coils but I do instruct others to clean them. I am pretty much beyond cleaning coils it is a task that it is below me.
    [/QUOTE
    Bull Crap!!!

    I would never ask my help to do something I wouldnt do myself nothing is beneth anyone in this field. As the owner I would run your a$$ off if you refused to do something like cleaning a coil because you thought you were better than that. If the coil needs cleaning clean the damn thing. Not that big of a deal or are you such a panzy that your scared of a little water and coil cleaner
    Certified,qualified and can do it cause were used to it.

  12. #25
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    I suspect--no, I hope--gruvn is posing as a moron. Some guys get their kicks screwing around with others.

    I said I hope he's posing...the alternative is that he really is as stupid as he appears. this is unlikely as he knows how to type and make irritating posts on the internet. I suspect if everyone would ignore him he'd disappear pretty quickly.

  13. #26
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    Doglips, also you have to be pretty careful almost every unit(saying this for his safety and to get him in the habit) over 5 tons has a double or even triple wrapped condenser coil.

    You see us talk about it alot, see pictures of us splitting them on this site but that is not common knowledge, there are many people that see the outside of a coil and think it is clean and never look for a second row condenser or wash the coil and just push the dirt in the center.

    Ive only been in the trade for 11 years, but I still get gratification out of splitting a 15 ton Voyager that looks like someone laid carpet between the coils and getting the coils spotless.
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