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Originally posted by John Lloyd
anybody else see 'troll' in gruvn?
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Ya trolled before, very close to it now. Pretty inciteful stuff. 4-D's been round for a long time and he's no troll. You seemed to have started that way.
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Originally posted by gruvn
I am not a troll,
Don't tell me you guys can't see it. You see it but are afraid to say it, hey if he is going to selectively spill his guts then I am going to selectively cut them up. Act ignorant if you want too. Dow is the only other person with enough balls to say what he thinks of the crap. Why don't you ?
Gruvn, for as short of a time as you have been here you sure everything about everybody. Maybe you are the one with selective sight. Maybe you are putting on someone you feel about yourself? Who gave you the right to "selectively cut them up"? If you have a problem maybe you should back off.
In my years of doing HVAC work I have worked for 3 companies plus the job I am at now. I've been laid off twice and quit once, does that mean I'm lazy and don't want to work? How many jobs have you had, how many times you've been laid off or fired?
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Originally posted by gruvn
I am not a troll,
Don't tell me you guys can't see it. You see it but are afraid to say it, hey if he is going to selectively spill his guts then I am going to selectively cut them up. Act ignorant if you want too. Dow is the only other person with enough balls to say what he thinks of the crap. Why don't you ?
You already gave him two blasts out of the double barrel as drema, why not leave him alone?
The way we build has a greater impact on our comfort, energy consumption and IAQ than any HVAC system we install.
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OK,
I'll lay off, I thought he was expressing interest in figuring out what the problem was so I thought I would help out. but hey no problem I'll leave it.
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 Gruvn, I like your posts
They keep this site going and the guys on their toes. Keep up the good work. But a M-F is as bad it gets. Don't get BOSS involved. Roy
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by gruvn
I am not a troll,
Don't tell me you guys can't see it. You see it but are afraid to say it, hey if he is going to selectively spill his guts then I am going to selectively cut them up. Act ignorant if you want too. Dow is the only other person with enough balls to say what he thinks of the crap. Why don't you ?
Yes, you may share your ideas and opinions. This should never be a place we can't see things only one way.
But you need to understand that there is a fine line of having the tone of your posts remain tactfull and respectfull.
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Very well put Dow and for the tact you show you have my respect even if I disagree with something you say.
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Gruvn you are a rookie here and have NO standing period. R-12 does as does many D's. We who have been around know the whole story and can speak to R-12 with benefit of that tenure you may not.
Most of what I have seen you post has been drivel so I don’t reply to it but your juvenile attack on R-12 was uncalled for. Go away and grow up then come back be civil then fit in.
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Drivel, Drivel,
Well I will talk nuts and bolts if you want , might even throw some technical stuff in just for ****s and giggles, but I was afraid I would lose you if I tried something like that.
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Considering you don't have guts enough to post a profile or credentials I seriously doubt it. You should also find out about those you choose to battle. I suggest most around here can chew you up and spit you out!
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Yeah I suppose they could,
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ahahah ahahhahhahah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey guys, it's 'truth in advertising' at it's finest! Note the obvious ommission of "professional" from his title. I repeat my position that it's extremely easy to toss darts from behind a cloak of anonymity, i.e. the absence of any credentials / profile info.
Everyone has a purpose in life..........even if it's to be a bad example. 
Seek first to understand, before seeking to be understood.
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Sorry I missed all this but I was watching the Astro's game,
but I have told gruvn not to be smoking crack during the day
but I guess he did not listen now he will have to go back to the zoo for three more days. 
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