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    More Liberty Lost at the hands of BO ?

    We should have expected this with the money hungry power grabbing socialist in office and trickled out throughout DC

    http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...mment=33589026
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    hang on to your old car and don't fall for the 'cash for clunkers' bit. So will the police be able to ticket you for a month old parking or speeding violation? The police state implications are endless, all while portraying the plan as a 'public safety' regulation.
    Governments don't tax to get the money they need, governments will always find a need for the money they get. Ronald Wilson Reagon

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    It's going to be used to tax you on how many miles you drive...just wait and see. But before that, they will pass a law making it a federal offense to tamper with the device, and then have one installed on all cars (used) before you can register your car.
    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what will never be. (Thomas Jefferson 1816)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib's Son View Post
    It's going to be used to tax you on how many miles you drive...just wait and see. But before that, they will pass a law making it a federal offense to tamper with the device, and then have one installed on all cars (used) before you can register your car.
    Thats exactly what its for. Oregon has been trying to implement that program for several years, saying the new higher mileage cars aren't paying their fair share of the road tax. In addition, new gas pump would read the mileage, and charge you at the pump.

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    Some of these types of black boxes have been in many of the newer cars for years now. Just ask any car insurance adjuster and they will tell you the first thing they do is ask for the info from the car black box before they will settle a claim.

    The black box will tell them if the driver was speeding or not. Or if they had their seat belts on..and a few other things. Insurance companies, rightfully so, have been using this information to reject claims for a few years now if the black box shows it could have been the drivers fault, as one example.

    The difference here is that the obama administration has a basic adgenda of finding ways in which the wealth can be shared. Tracking people and using that info to bill people who drive on the highways is only one way in which they will use this information.

    It's one ideal way in which obama will take money from you so he can spend it on social programs which is the same as giving your money away.

    He's been very upfront with this cause of "sharing the wealth" as he has stated many times.

    If you think you are going to complain about this, which is going to happen, wait until he gets re-elected and develops a new income tax plan which will not be based on yearly income but on the "wealth" of each individual, family and business in America.

    You will be taxed on not only what you have earned but what you own. What a better way to take your money legally and give to the Federal Government so they can do with it what they want.

    He won't present this until he is re-elected, BTW. Now he's going after all the uninformed again who still think there is "free ice cream" somewhere to be had so he's not going to introduce anything that might wake people up to the reality of who he really is.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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    Unfortunately the American voters are probably stupid enough to elect him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    Unfortunately the American voters are probably stupid enough to elect him again.

    We can 'hope' not.
    Governments don't tax to get the money they need, governments will always find a need for the money they get. Ronald Wilson Reagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    Unfortunately the American voters are probably stupid enough to elect him again.
    Ya think? They already put him in there once, the American public is retarded.
    You sure are cocky for a starving pilgrim.

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    Oh Boy....more change we can believe in!
    "Politicians are the lowest form of life on Earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician"

    - General George S. Patton

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    The way I see it, he got the left-wingers easily and tricked the center into voting for him, which was fairly easy since enough of them were sick of the war and just wanted something new. Hopefully it's different now so somewhat difficult to predict. It's been shown time after time that you need the center to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    The way I see it, he got the left-wingers easily and tricked the center into voting for him, which was fairly easy since enough of them were sick of the war and just wanted something new. Hopefully it's different now so somewhat difficult to predict. It's been shown time after time that you need the center to win.
    Reagan wasn't anywhere near center. We need to stick to our guns, politically and run a conservative. Lots of Democrats have buyers remorse even.
    Governments don't tax to get the money they need, governments will always find a need for the money they get. Ronald Wilson Reagon

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