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**ipic** · 09-02-2005, 05:46 PM

A new can of worms, and how in the world did I ever do that?

Ok, so let me ask you this if you had replacement parts for water heaters do you think most would be universal in reagrds to a commercial water heater and a residential water heater?

See I have the following:

Flue tubes (I know it is for gas powered)
Bottom head and top head discs (not sure what these are)
burner supply tubes
heat traps
baffles
MAIN CONTROL PC boards

There isn't a water heater chat sight out there is there?

**ipic** · 09-02-2005, 06:33 PM

Hey I do still need some help... Any takers? See my previous post for more items I am looking for input on.

Thanks.

**stevehvac** · 09-02-2005, 06:37 PM

Help?? Hah, It's Friday evening and your still working on the start of a 3 day weekend. I think your just addicted to HVAC-Talk.

**ipic** · 09-02-2005, 06:41 PM

lol
who knows maybe...Or maybe you are addicted to me...
I mean afterall my thread has quite a few people viewing it...lol I mean who can pass up flirtatious shop talk with a cute girl? Headers, nipples, tubes, female Y connectors, come on it is a smorgasboard oozing with sexuality...

I have a really huge deadline to meet. I am pissed about it, but what can I do? With taxes, Sept 15th is almost as big as April 15th. One of my bosses wants me to get this stuff done so badly they offered to watch my son for me. (Personally I think that is jacked up)

[Edited by ipic on 09-02-2005 at 06:46 PM]

**stevehvac** · 09-02-2005, 06:44 PM

Hmmm tell him yes. He can watch him next weekend while you take a mini vacation.

**ipic** · 09-02-2005, 06:47 PM

Nope my vacation is not until the following weekend... Ah, can't wait to head to cali. I am hoping I can do some surfing and hit the beach in my bikini for a tan.

**stevehvac** · 09-02-2005, 06:50 PM

Sounds like an perfet oppertunity for a new picture.

**ipic** · 09-02-2005, 06:55 PM

lol Well if I get one, I will share it with all of you. But only if you help me with my questions. I mean if you get a cute pic, I want to get something too.

Hey would you consider the valves used for HVAC and Water heaters plumbing and heating valves?....

[Edited by ipic on 09-02-2005 at 06:58 PM]

**stevehvac** · 09-02-2005, 07:14 PM

Yes, you could. I guess it depends on what kind of valve it is. Is it a check valve used to keep the water flowing in one direction Or a relief valve designed to open up if the water gets under to much pressure? There are many types of vavles.AC system use a lot of the same type of parts because they are needed for the same reasons.

**gruntly** · 09-02-2005, 07:23 PM

Sorry..I'm a slow reader and the Louisiana Purchase is just warming up...
Most of those parts sound like they are residential/commercial.

Some parts can be interchangable like thermocouples and even gas valves but not necessarily all. Like the auto industry, most manufacturers use some OEM parts. You should know in your line of work that is "Original Equipment Manufactured" or "Manufacturer". This just means that the tires on your Ford Excursion will probably fit a GMC Suburban(generic manufactured or knockoff), but the fenders and bumpers won't (OEM).

OEM parts, to a contractor, are dealer/manufacturer supplied items that basically fit only one type of manufactured system or unit. (I.E. some circuit boards, tubes, valves, etc.) These parts can be built by a speciallist or generic manufacturer, like Honeywell, and designated solely for the use of one OEM, like Carrier, Rheem or Lennox. The OEM pays for that exclusive right and may own those rights under trade laws.

Some generic manufacturing companies, after a legal amount of time (I don't know how long, usually years), can offer for sale a knockoff of the same part, but it will have to be in their interest to do so. It all depends on the OEM what parts they will use in production, OEM supplied or generic and in this case, quite often, size alters the part requirements.

I didn't realize how far back I was...I'm still on "mini-vacation".

[Edited by gruntly on 09-02-2005 at 07:25 PM]

**gruntly** · 09-02-2005, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by ipic
lol Well if I get one, I will share it with all of you. But only if you help me with my questions. I mean if you get a cute pic, I want to get something too.

Hey would you consider the valves used for HVAC and Water heaters plumbing and heating valves?....

Anything to do with the gas and plumbing side, yes...

ACR (refrigeration) no, even though the plumbing pipe sizes are roughly the same as ACR, they are designated differently. 1/2" plumbing becomes 5/8"ACR and so on... so no.. (V)ACR is not Plumbing and Heating.

[Edited by gruntly on 09-02-2005 at 07:37 PM]

**gruvn** · 09-02-2005, 09:36 PM

So what does she want to know , she has a bunch of universal burner parts ? Whats the problem, crossovers are burner parts. Who she working for Power Flame ?

**The Penguin** · 09-03-2005, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by ipic
A new can of worms, and how in the world did I ever do that?

Ok, so let me ask you this if you had replacement parts for water heaters do you think most would be universal in reagrds to a commercial water heater and a residential water heater?

See I have the following:

Flue tubes (I know it is for gas powered)
Bottom head and top head discs (not sure what these are)
burner supply tubes
heat traps
baffles
MAIN CONTROL PC boards

There isn't a water heater chat sight out there is there?

I would say they are all parts of your standard gas hot water tank the main control pc board sounds like the ignition control/ temp control for the hot water tank

the valves you refer to could be the Gas valves used on the hot water tanks to control the gas to the burner, or they could be a pressure/temperature relief valve for the hot water tank.

by the way a three inch black nipple is work about the same as a white one

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