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  1. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    S.W. PA
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    Originally posted by greenhornet
    1. The trade school I go to gives you a list of the tools you need, a map of an A/C supply house that has 6 locations around town, and if you buy your tools from them they give you a 20% discount.
    2. The trade school I go to offers a 3 month prep course just for preparing for the HVAC exam, and they cover ALL the licensing laws & rules.
    3. People skills, I think spending 4 1/2 hours 3X a week at school with a wide variety of different type of people is a GREAT way to develop people skills. Where do you develop your people skills? At the local watering hole?
    All you guys that want to rip on trade schools, where did you learn all your skills? Did you just wake up one morning and it had all come to you overnight in a dream? The trade school here is turning out techs that go on to open their own HVAC businesses, and do very well for themselves. Maybe thats why you feel the need to put down trade schools beacuse you know they are turning out guys that are going to go into business for them selves and give you more competition or maybe you dont like trade schools because the students who went are better techs than you.

    [Edited by greenhornet on 08-24-2005 at 08:18 PM]

    Wow I don’t even know where to start you seem to have all your ducks in a row for someone who only got into this earlier this year
    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=68994


    To you I would say you are one of the reasons there is a problem in this field

    Do you plan to be self employed by time you finish school??

    And coming out of school and being a better tech than these guys here that have done this their whole lives, man you are in for a rude awakening


    Maybe the school you go to is the exception to the rule but I believe that more realistically you are delusional
    The school will give you a good start but it is just that a start
    This trade is not an easy one if you do things right, and to run a successful business is even harder
    I know the book you have tells you how to fix everything and you know about all there is to know which is great but if you really want to see how smart you are post what you think you know and let some of the smartest guys in the world (in this field) teach you how much you really don’t know

    As far as people skills, simply being around people does not teach you what you need to know for the most part, although you will pick it up if you are smart but some people never do


    Well I could go on about this forever but I won’t just want to say I think you took Steves post entirely out of context and proved yourself to be pretty bad off
    If for no other reason than you don’t know enough to know, that you don’t know enough



  2. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    East Stroudsburg, PA
    Posts
    13,215
    Originally posted by Steve Wiggins


    #1 most important tool to own, cost $20 - Voltstick for high voltage

    I found this live wire hanging in a closet and never would have attempted to check it with a regular meter.
    Were your panythose bunching up that day, Steve????

  3. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Nevada
    Posts
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    Originally posted by senior tech
    I would consider this a decent starter list, I have many, many tools and equipment that I use that are not on this list, as you mature in the field you'll learn more of what you need (Or may not need, but just gotta have!)

    Snips- Lefts, right, straights
    Scribe
    Rule
    hand seamers, flue crimpers
    Nut Drivers Long handle magnetic 1/4, 5/16, 3/8
    regular screwdrivers
    phillips screwdrivers
    pliers, needlenose and regular
    wire strippers and crimpers
    channel locks
    combo wrenchs (most common 3/8, 7/16, 1/2, 9/16)
    adjustable wrenchs (commonly known as crescent wrench)
    Torpedo level
    Multi-meter
    Manometer
    Refrigerant scale
    Refrigeration guages (R-22 and R-410a)
    Cordless drill (Maquita angle drill a must for me)
    1/4 and 5/16 bits and 6" extension for drill
    multi-bit

    In addition to this

    Tubing cutter(s) (Rigid)
    Hacksaw (Lennox)
    Flashlight (Get a good one)
    Mulit-tool (Gerber, leatherman)
    Multi-meter (fluke 16 or 32 see Grainger for an HVAC kit)
    ball peen hammer (estwing see Grainger)
    Razor knife
    Inspection mirror
    Digital thermometers (at least two)
    linesman’s pliers (klien ,bahco)
    hex wrenches
    refrigeration wrench
    offset boxed end wrenches 3/8” X 7/16 and ˝” X 9/16”
    Valve core removal tool (ball valve style)
    Flaring kit (imperial)
    3/8” ratchet kit ( snap-on[expensive but the best] husky/craftsman/SK-good choices)
    Chisel set
    Diagonal cutters
    Safety glasses
    Mechanics gloves
    Drop light

    Don’t skimp on quality. A few tools of excellent quality is better than a wheelbarrow full of junk.
    Snap-on, Bahco, Knipex and Pro-to are expensive but excellent professional quality tools.
    Husky, Craftsman, Stanley, Vaco and SK are more reasonably priced and good choices for the beginner.
    A list of other good brands is eastwing (hammers) Malco (sheet metal tools) Lennox (cutting tools) CLC (tool bags and pouches) REFCO (heavy duty refrigeration tools)
    Do not buy tools of lesser quality than these, and never go to harbor freight.




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  4. #17
    Originally posted by outside rep
    hey where do you get on of those snazy tools I want on just for the heck of it
    Any Fluke distributor should be able to order one for you.

    Fluke has two different models, one for 20-90 volts and one for 90-1000 volts.

    I just looked at the Fluke site and their models now beep. I prefer the older models (AC1 & AC2) they don't beep, but just glow. The new ones beep & glow.
    (glad I have a new "older version" back-up for when the current one fails)

  5. #18
    I just read where you can turn off the beeping sound on the new model.

  6. #19
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Beautiful British Columbia
    Posts
    1,242
    Nevada has the answer two left hands.

  7. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    SE Florida
    Posts
    220
    multimeter - with temp probe
    gages
    torchset
    valve wrench
    reg. wrench
    6-way screwdriver
    cordless drill + nut drivers + unibit
    tube cutter
    pvc cutter
    trane charging chart
    and possibly some open end wrenches
    measuring tape
    tin snips
    channellock
    and of course lineman pliers

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