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  1. #1
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    i haven't been installing long'but i already know goodman is crap.

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    Then you don't know anything at all.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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    Originally posted by mrgreen
    i haven't been installing long'but i already know goodman is crap.
    How would you know that if you haven't been installing long at all?
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    Maybe he is mrgreen at being a troll.

    Not a very good way to introduce himself to this forum though.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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    goodmans,rheem,and ruud tend to make up the majority of my service calls.they are no more common in my area than american standard or carrier yet they seem to break down more often.a lot more.

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    The best brand is the one recommended by the best installation company.
    Don't ever shop brand- shop installation quality.
    It's just a box of parts. It takes a quality install to make it perform.

    Maybe you are following behind the same hack company selling those brands w/ their lousy installs.
    You haven't been doing this long enough to form such conclusions.

    [Edited by precision hvac on 08-19-2005 at 09:04 PM]

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    Must be the installation.
    WHY?

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    mrgreen;

    How do you determine the size of system you are going to install?

    How do you determine the duct sizes on your installations?



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    please dont misunderstand the intention of this topic.i guess i didn't have to call out manufactuer names.i jsut tend to find more busted heat exchanchers in goodmans.the blower wheels also tend to tear up more often in these brands.i would truly like to see people with more experiance than me(5 years)have an honest discussion about the reliability of differant brands.MAYBE THESE LOWER END units are the victoms of a lower end install(undersized ductwork,etc,)My boss is a american standard dealer so they are the best unit in the world according to him and his distributers.but their veiw may be obscured by loyalty to there brand.i've heard a lot of good things about carrier but i haven't installed or serviced many.

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    Originally posted by NormChris


    mrgreen;

    How do you determine the size of system you are going to install?

    How do you determine the duct sizes on your installations?



    Are you going to answer my questions?


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    Originally posted by RoBoTeq
    Maybe he is mrgreen at being a troll.

    Not a very good way to introduce himself to this forum though.
    His post has the appearance of being a troll in an attempt to knock Goodman equipment. This forum should not be about knocking specific brand/makes of A/C equipment!

    I sold a lot of Goodman equipment for over 15 years and personally did a lot of service work on all brands, and though there was a lot of Goodman condensing units sold in my service area, I got far less calls on Goodman units than on many of the most highly touted high dollar makes.

    The quality of the installation is the key factor in good performance and a low rate of service problems.

    Manufacturers' use a lot of the same producton components to assemble their units.

    I would like to see all mfg'ers go to TXV refrigerant metering devices and adequate equipment protection features.

    I believe that mfg'ers of A/C equipment should engineer it to meet specific climatic application condition requirements, along with meeting the affordability limitations of the consumers' purchasing power.

    http://www.udarrell.com/air-conditio...tent-heat.html



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    I believe mrgreen is a troll and that is why he is unable or unwilling to answer my questions or those I will follow up with.


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    i install according to square footage and insulation of the area

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