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  1. #27
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    Do any of you think like me when this post came up or am I just an a hole?
    I think a similar alarm went off in my mind as has yours. That is why I responded as I did in my previous post under this topic. IMO I'm not sure the gist of my post was received...that is, character over circumstance...R12's reply appeared to dwell on the circumstance.

    That being said, I'm not led to believe the man is a thief, or lazy, or incompetent. It could be he's a highly competent, diligent mechanic that somehow has a way of rubbing people the wrong direction that he hasn't fully become aware of, yet.

    I believe this is Dowadudda's point, as it was mine. Youth is inherent with rubbing folks the wrong way and not being aware of it...until later. That's just it. Each person has to learn how they're doing it and then look inward to discover how to change. It can be hard. Ego is a bad bear to wrestle down. Even if it appears to be cloaked in humility (i.e. oh woe is me!). I've been down that road more than once.

    In closing, it does suck to be laid off. So my sympathies are extended for that purpose. However, each setback is an opportunity to reassess and push on. Learn from each, strive not to repeat, knowingly. It's well known that victory often arises from the ashes of failure.
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    • Refrigeration makes the HVAC psychrometric process happen.
    • HVAC pyschrometrics is what makes indoor human comfort happen...IF the ducts AND the building envelope cooperate.


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    R12,

    I just noticed your signature, and it makes me wonder if maybe your religion at work played a role in you getting canned from your job. I have seen some people come to an organization and talk about their religion excessively and eventually lose their job because of it.Is this a possibility ?

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    I smell another rat.
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    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

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    Smells more like a mole.

    Man did I take some bait.
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    Does that make swamp a homo?
    The way we build has a greater impact on our comfort, energy consumption and IAQ than any HVAC system we install.

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    Another thread disappears, I'm beginning to think that this is an occult going on here.

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    There, now. Isn't that better?
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  8. #34
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    Originally posted by hvac_czar
    Don't take the BS personally. There are other jobs and companies out there. Go easy on the "self evaluation". Did you think that maybe the low numbers were a slimeball way of justifying the layoff which is a very real component of new construction? Look in the mirror and repeat after me... "You the Man..." Repeat as needed.
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    Originally posted by gruvn
    Another thread disappears, I'm beginning to think that this is an occult going on here.

    It is and we are having a special punch with the first glass reserved for you

    We will all be right behind you so don’t worry we even made it cherry flavor to help it go down

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    R-12, God's got your back.... she ain't gonna let you down. Keep the magic alive... you'll do well. Her plans are clear. Even though we don't always see what she's up to. But hang in there Bro.
    Teach the apprentices right... and learn from their questions and ideas.

  11. #37
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    Oh, and self evaluation is rediculous at best... it's the lazyness of a supervisor or boss to initiate this process. The light is on... or the light is off... your worth should be reflected by the effort you put into your work in the work world.

    People lie to cover their asses. How many people involved in the self evaluation program ever said....

    "Well, I try hard most of the time, but I find that I sometimes sneak a fitting out of the shop now and again, and stay on coffee break for six or fifteen minutes now and again. Oh, and I almost forgot to mention - I'm often lazy when we have to work extra hours.... you know... so that I get the overtime... I'm not all the productive, but I sure love those O.T. hours...."


    The only active reason for 'self evaluation' is two fold. Lazy supervisors that don't see what you do anyway - so they don't have to lift a finger. Or a boss has you pegged, and want's to see what kind of Bull Shipper you are.

    IMHO.

    Teach the apprentices right... and learn from their questions and ideas.

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    Hey R12 maybe you should change your name to R12 Ruined. Sorry I just could not resist. But the fact that you put your issues out here is a good sign that your willing to listen and make changes. I think you will land on your feet and learn from this and grow. Talk to your old boss and see if he will give you an idea of where you need to improve and if your saying the wrong things to others (religion). Sounds bad but maybe a list of areas for improvement, I hope you do OK and I think you will.
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