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  1. #1
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    Anybody from Prime BEEF or Red Horse? Wondering what the wartime mission is now that the Cold War is over. During the '80's and early '90's, we did mostly RRR. Just wondering if they've changed with the times.


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    You jangled a memory.... was on a Beef team in the early 70's. We were almost deployed to the Middle East during the Arab\Israeli 6 Day War in 73. 16 hours on the tarmac before they decided we wouldn't be needed.
    How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

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    I was trained for it. Worked with them on some missions but worked mostly in Combat Comm

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    Haven't heard that term in quite awhile. I was on Prime Beef 'B' team as I remember. Ready to go anywhere in 48 hours or so. My buddy was on 'A' team and ready to go anywhere right now. He had to keep his shots up, I didn't and that was a good thing for me.

    Had standby orders to go to Florida to help out a base that was hit by a hurricane, never went; called up when the Pueblo was taken and was #11 of 10 guys being shipped out in 4 hours; they all showed up in the C-131 so I didn't go to Korea; got called up for about 2 or 3 other interesting places but never went anywhere.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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    Being in SAC as a security specialist was the same, getting the chance to TDY anywhere was a blessing. SAC just did not want to let anyone lose.

    A funny now-scary then story about some TDY's.
    Security Specialist were asked to go to Saudi Arabia for 6 month stints. The KC-10 was coming on-line to replace some KC-135's, so they would send a small AC up first with a security guy with only a M-16 to run draw before the KC's took off. The idea was that the cessna would draw fire if there were any badies around. I laugh now because what could we do with a M-16?
    We also had the option to go TDY Korea for Stinger Missile evaluation, anything to get away for awhile.

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    TDY's were always big around here . People would run over each other to go. Anyone ever been to lakenheath? got to spend 6 mo over there once, had my fill of england in those 6 months

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    I guess TDY's were feast or famine, depending on AFSC. We stayed TDY 9 months out of 12...TDY for 3 months, home for a month...start all over again.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

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    Originally posted by bobby7388
    Being in SAC as a security specialist was the same, getting the chance to TDY anywhere was a blessing. SAC just did not want to let anyone lose.

    A funny now-scary then story about some TDY's.
    Security Specialist were asked to go to Saudi Arabia for 6 month stints. The KC-10 was coming on-line to replace some KC-135's, so they would send a small AC up first with a security guy with only a M-16 to run draw before the KC's took off. The idea was that the cessna would draw fire if there were any badies around. I laugh now because what could we do with a M-16?
    We also had the option to go TDY Korea for Stinger Missile evaluation, anything to get away for awhile.
    I heard rumors of Sac security guys at Minot freezin their bells off guarding B-52s in 20 below zero weather...flippin out and shooting up the planes they were guarding.
    How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

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    We had a tech sgt who would come around with coffee in the back of his little pick-up and once during a raging snowstorm
    he cracked his window just enough to say that there was coffee and it was frozen, what a dink.
    I had a friend who freaked after failing his advancment test(forgot the acronym), he was told that the he would have to stay to study and forgo his christmas leave. Well! he started crying right there in the alert area, now this guy has 120 rounds and 18 M-40 grenades so nobody wanted to ask for his weapon so they call me over from a roving patrol to help out, I felt bad for Tom; he was my friend, but I laughed my arss off after that incident.

    I've also heard of some folks having problems in remote locations, especially Greenland, but I'm sworn to secrecy, but I can talk about the UFO we tracked once


    [Edited by bobby7388 on 08-03-2005 at 03:48 PM]

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    Originally posted by bobby7388
    Being in SAC as a security specialist was the same, getting the chance to TDY anywhere was a blessing. SAC just did not want to let anyone lose.
    Ah..the old saying "Once in SAC, always in SAC" That was one of my main motivators to not re-up. And I was graranteed Tech Sergeant too. Most dangerous place on the day I got discharged (Fairchild) was between personel and the main gate cause I was leaving no matter who got in my way...
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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    I remember those back breaking days of laying RRR matting. They still did that crap in 93 when I retired. Had some great deployments and a lot of fun back then.

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    I was in SAC on B47's. I remember a story where a tech during preflights liked to turn on the 20mm canons in the tail and follow the guards around with them. That can get spooky because a person can hear the drive motors as the guns move. And ya the tdy's were great. GB, Spain, Labrador
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Originally posted by hvacker
    I was in SAC on B47's. I remember a story where a tech during preflights liked to turn on the 20mm canons in the tail and follow the guards around with them. That can get spooky because a person can hear the drive motors as the guns move. And ya the tdy's were great. GB, Spain, Labrador

    They would do that with the B52's also, it worked best on the jeep's(new guy's). Seeing that these AC weren't guarded you'd have to have the guy get out of the truck to check on some suspecious activity and walla!!! he's running in all sorts of directions. This only happened on non-alert AC, nobody fooled around in the alert area.
    We had a guy walk behind a FB-111 as it was spooling up it's engines on the flight line during a ORE, he was chasing his beret, funny!!

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