Waterfurnace Vs Bosch Vs Geocomfort

[phogan]

Ok here is the big question. Don't hold back.
These are my choices

Waterfurnace - installers are suppose to be good, lots of experience but not the best reputation to work with.

GeoComfort - installers lots of experience, good at what they do and great to work with!

Bosch - Have not met with the company that installs Bosch here yet.
Should I?

Thanks
Phogan

[BobbyBJr]

The installer is the most important part of the equation that will determine how good your system performs and how long it will last. I'm not familiar with GeoComfort, but based on the info you have posted, that's where I am leaning. My company doesn't align itself with any particular brand, but just use what ever the customer wants or the brand that offers the best unit for the application. We feel we can make them all perform.

[geodean]

I agree with Bobby, installer is more important than brand.

[phogan]

Thanks so much! Solid advice!
Phogan

[matteo268]

Bosch has recently bought out FHP

[D-Allen]

American Standard has bought Waterfurnace

[rikmeister]

isn't trane owned by american standard.

[Awinterfield]

American Standard has NOT bought out Water Furnace.
They are just rebranding Water Furnace with the American Standard Name.

[Villarreal]

Waterfurnace is good, but to me GeoComfort is the best.



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[SolarMike]

never hear about Bosch heat pumps from my European friends. You'd think they never sold any.

[BaldLoonie]

If they don't have a good reputation to work with, I sure wouldn't want them as my dealer!

American Standard and Trane are owned by Ingersoll Rand, an Irish company. They just haven't gotten around to changing the name to Ireland Standard

[SkyHeating]

American Standard has NOT bought out Water Furnace.
They are just rebranding Water Furnace with the American Standard Name.

Or the Trane name.

Look for the best installer and use any of the three above brands.

And for the other comments:
American Standard does not own Trane, it was the other way around, but dont' confuse American Standard plumbing fixtures with heating units, seperate companies. Recently Trane was bought by Ingersoll Rand just FYI

[building solutions]

I thought design came before installation. The process should be (1) professional design (2) proper installation (3) performance verification.
I dont see any one step being more or less important than the other.

Another challenge will be finding the appropriate equipment for the job. As houses are being built more and more energy efficient, the sizes of equipment needed is getting smaller and smaller. Our company is doing three homes right now which all include 9,000 btuh units. These were required to match the load. If you say GeoComfort is best, you are out of luck if you need anything less than 1.5 ton. That leaves you with Bosch/FHP, Water Furnace and ClimateMaster. Water Furnace and ClimateMaster choose to leave their smaller stuff in the commercial line. That creates problems with warranty. Bosch/FHP has 10 year warranty on their small stuff. But they use an X-13 motor instead of ECM.

In the end, the least important issue is who's name is on the box. Find people who know what they are doing and then learn THEY WILL NOT BE THE LOW BIDDER.

[mseng]

If you install a geo heat pump you need to get the hot water portion when you order it. Waterfurnace does not have a add on. The other thing is when it is finished check to make sure the hot water part it working again it goes back to the installer. I had one that was installed 3 years ago and the dip switch was not set when I went to work on it. The owner went all that time without it working.

[arc8]

Ok here is the big question. Don't hold back.
These are my choices

Waterfurnace - installers are suppose to be good, lots of experience but not the best reputation to work with.

GeoComfort - installers lots of experience, good at what they do and great to work with!

Bosch - Have not met with the company that installs Bosch here yet.
Should I?

Thanks
Phogan

Are you sure?
If yes, then it's obvious!

But, have you seen the Load-Calc yet?
Who knows what their doing, really?