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Thread: scroll vs recip
07-19-2005, 04:51 PM #1Regular Guest
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- lawn guyland, ny
what is the reason for increasing the size of the suction line on a scroll type compressor when the run is over 15'? Frigidaire says to up a 3 1/2 ton suction line from 3/4 to 7/8 if the pipe run is over 15'? the only reason that makes sense is oil return, because of the different design?
i have to replace a 3 1/2 ton carrier condenser that a "large ny area contractor, that also sells a lot of alarm sytems" cut the lines with a hacksaw - wires and all and then proceeded to destroy the suction line quick - connect threads with a channellock to ensure replacement.
The owners are good friends that happen to be building an extension and the lines were in the way of the roofer, so rather than "bother" me they called this hack. after he shot them a zip code price to replace the unit they then decided to "bother" me.
my quandry is this... the run is about 25' and am considering replacing it with this frigidaire scroll but am concerned about the line question. the existing line set is 3/8 - 3/4. and would rather just splice the 10' that they cut off and run the 3/4 but ultimately want to do it correctly. any help?
additionally can anyone direct me to a source of on line manuals for hvac equipment?have searched hi and lo but ng so far thanks all
[Edited by madmark on 07-19-2005 at 04:58 PM]
07-19-2005, 06:48 PM #2
If he cut it with a hack saw, and you connect to it, you're just as much to blame when it craps out. Sorry but there are copper shavings all through it.
3/4 may be ok, may not, you have to read the spec sheets or installation instructions to know. Generally if you choose the smaller suction line, there is a cpacity loss. Your load calc would tell you whether the amount of loss is an issue or not. If on teh other hand 3/4 is not a printed option then change it all. You are responsible for its operation and reliability.
07-19-2005, 06:54 PM #3Member
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i would run 7/8 copper but 3/4 should not prevent a problem. i would change equipment brands thou. why not buy a top of the line unit. it shouldnt cost more than a hundred or 2 dollars. carrier, lennox or bryant.