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    Start and Check....new a/c system in an old apartment complex in DC

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    charging up the system

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    some lineset covering

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    more covering

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    all tubing bends....u can see how mr. sparky likes to ruin are nice linesets

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    Mr. Sparky likes to split the jacket on the CCC waiting for me to touch it. i taped it.

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    more guttering

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    sparky messes up are lineset again!

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    and more

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    indoor unit. its a 1.5 ton a/c

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    more lineset

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    and my toolbag i get to walk around DC with weighing in at almost 34 lbs

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    You need a new electrician. That UF wouldn't fly here, needs physical protection. Besides is looks like crap.

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    i agree. wasnt our electrician. i told my boss about it and he said they were a joke.

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    I'm pretty sure you don't have to invert the R410 bottle for liquid, unless the bottle says you do.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    I'm pretty sure you don't have to invert the R410 bottle for liquid, unless the bottle says you do.
    Yes you do. The blend of refrigerants evaporate at different pressures and the liquid ensures that r410a is being charged and not one of the blends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    I'm pretty sure you don't have to invert the R410 bottle for liquid, unless the bottle says you do.
    Yes you do. The blend of refrigerants evaporate at different pressures and the liquid ensures that r410a is being charged and not one of the blends. Thats what I've read and the bottle does say to charge by liquid.

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    But the new 410a bottles, at least some of them, have the dip tube in the bottom so liquid is always available. No I gotta go look in my van cause this is driving me nuts. I could be wrong but I could swear I don't have to invert my bottles.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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    You could be right. I haven't bought a new 410 bottle yet this year. But I am out so I have to go get a 2nd mortgage and get some now Be nice not to.

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    I got a jug of Forane sitting outside the office door, it has arrows saying this (bottom) end up for use.

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    One of the 400 series refrigerant doesn't require the bottom up stuff. Now I'm gonna have to go look.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    One of the 400 series refrigerant doesn't require the bottom up stuff. Now I'm gonna have to go look.
    When they first came out with 410, they were going to use a dip tube. They may have done it for awhile. They don't anymore.
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacvegas View Post
    When they first came out with 410, they were going to use a dip tube. They may have done it for awhile. They don't anymore.
    Could very well be my answer as I'm still using some old bottles. When I get into the shop I'm going to look at all the other different color jugs cause I think there still may be one more. I think it's the dull orange one.......who remembers what they are by refrigerant numbers anymore!
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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