Does it not tell you in the instructions?
Hi I have a Nordyne E2EB-015/split unit A/C 5ton. I installed a new thermostat this weekend (marked all wires and replaced them to their proper location) The new thermostat is looking for a "C" or common wire. I have 3 wires that are not being used and the opposite end of them (at the air handler) are not connected at all. Where is this "C" wire to be connected? Thanks in advance.
Does it not tell you in the instructions?
....have a C terminal at both ends
You mean, as in 'C' on one of these?
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I'll stop now.
ya thats what he 's talking about. I can see it from here
get it
If the thermostat is looking for a "c" terminal it must be one of those Smart thermostats
where does the other end of the wire go? and what color wires are there?
Well I just hired American Home Maintenance (recommended by the inlaws / they service their unit) He did a complete system check, Does not know where the C wire goes, said is should be a black wire. He checked my outside compressor unit and said my compressor is about to go out. He said it was drawing 25.9 amps at 89deg temp, should be only 11 to 11.5. Does this sound right? Still no C wire hook up and now I need a compressor. Anyone recommend a good brand to purchase? Anyone know of a decent HVAC business in the Tucson Az area? I don't think I will be calling these people anymore. Thanks in advance
1. hire an HVAC company. The maintenance company is fine for cleaning the coils/filter changing.Originally posted by ltzpowerstroke
Well I just hired American Home Maintenance (recommended by the inlaws / they service their unit) He did a complete system check, Does not know where the C wire goes, said is should be a black wire. He checked my outside compressor unit and said my compressor is about to go out. He said it was drawing 25.9 amps at 89deg temp, should be only 11 to 11.5. Does this sound right? Still no C wire hook up and now I need a compressor. Anyone recommend a good brand to purchase? Anyone know of a decent HVAC business in the Tucson Az area? I don't think I will be calling these people anymore. Thanks in advance
2. The C wire should be BLUE.....not BLACK,standard color codes.
3. Have a pro check the compressor....you can't judge it on amp draw alone, might be poor voltage,etc.
4.If this system is an older one, consider a new condenser and indoor matching coil instead of changing compressor if it does need a compressor.
If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.
Thanks. I am looking at the Trane XL14i on their web site. How much more efficent are the highter seers? If I could cut my elect bill by 1/3 it would pay for itself within a five years. Thanks again
the maintenance guy doesn't know what he is talking about. 25.9 amp sounds fine for a 5 ton unit. i just installed a Nordyne 5 ton yesterday and i believe the rating on the nameplate was 28 amps.
as for the thermostat, most do not require a common terminal. thats why it was not connected. simply take one of the spare wires and connect it to the C terminal on the thermostat and connect the other end to the C terminal on the circuit board in the furnace. the C terminal on the board will already have a wire connect to it from your A/C unit. it is OK to connect two wires there.
There's been alot of discussions here on this topic.Do a search on the this site and you'll find tons of info. If you have high electric rates, a hot climate, and plan on staying in your home for a while, the higher seers can make alot of sense.Originally posted by ltzpowerstroke
Thanks. I am looking at the Trane XL14i on their web site. How much more efficent are the highter seers? If I could cut my elect bill by 1/3 it would pay for itself within a five years. Thanks again
If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.
WHOA! That right there is your indication to show him the door & hire a competent tech...while you're at it, you might want to recommend that your inlaws do the same depending on how well you like them. An incompetent tech can ruin a perfectly good system with ease.Originally posted by ltzpowerstroke
Well I just hired American Home Maintenance (recommended by the inlaws / they service their unit) He did a complete system check, Does not know where the C wire goes
what kinda stat?
usually common does not get hooked up but if it is a power stealing stat you will have to hook it up
you should hire a compentant tech to hook it up or you may end up needing the unit repaired
if you have a split system the common is already in use you could still use it but i would have someone who knows do it.
First mistake!Originally posted by ltzpowerstroke
Well I just hired American Home Maintenance
Can be any color if wired correctly!(recommended by the inlaws / they service their unit) He did a complete system check, Does not know where the C wire goes, said is should be a black wire.
Not at all...He checked my outside compressor unit and said my compressor is about to go out. He said it was drawing 25.9 amps at 89deg temp, should be only 11 to 11.5. Does this sound right?
Not so fast! Hire a reputible HVAC company to service your system and give you a REAL evaluation!Still no C wire hook up and now I need a compressor.
Looks like you are about to be bent over and loaded like a shot gun!!!!!!!!
Figures you are in Az... there seem to be a lot of hacks in THAT area of the US.Anyone recommend a good brand to purchase? Anyone know of a decent HVAC business in the Tucson Az area? I don't think I will be calling these people anymore. Thanks in advance
If a service tech can't find the C terminal, or figure out where he can get a common from the transformer, then he's not a service tech.
I doubt he can tell you anything about your compressor either.
If your t-stat is working without the C terminal connected,then you don't need a Common.Not all t-stats require a common.And you can use any color wire you want.The t-stat won't know the difference.
Thanks for everyones input, the stat is one of those touch screen ritetemps w/remote. I think I will hit the yellow pages and try to find a contractor that is a member of the BBB here in Tucson. We must have 10 pages in the book filled with a/c companies. Does a factory authorized dealer for a particular brand mean squat? Thanks, I hate to be a pain, Just don't want to be taken advantage, I am one of those payday to payday kina guys, You know, the wifes the budgeteer and stuff.
remember also that american home maintenance techs work on comission and need to sell you something to get paid. find a small licsened company that pays there techs by the hour and dont be afraid to get a second opinnion...
Thermostats with a MECHANICAL timer have a wire (usually blue) connected to the C ( for CLOCK ) terminal. It was used to complete the circuit for 24V to the timer motor.
Any thermostat should have come with detailed wiring instructions. What brand/model is it?
It is an 8082c ritetemp w/remote control. It requires the "c" wire for the remote to work. I located the C terminal on the control board at the compressor. It was hooked up, just not hoooked up on the terminal strip in the air handler. All is working well. I will searching the forum this weekend for what SEER unit makes sense. Is there any advantge to a split unit vs a pack unit? My last home had a pack unit on it, it too was a heat pump. Hopefuly I can pick up a few pointers so I can avoid being taken advantage of. Should the service person that was at my house today, hook up gauges? He said it was not necessary.
Oh my GAWD... this only gets better!Originally posted by ltzpowerstroke
I will searching the forum this weekend for what SEER unit makes sense. Hopefuly I can pick up a few pointers so I can avoid being taken advantage of. Should the service person that was at my house today, hook up gauges? He said it was not necessary.
You better be doing research, for a COMPETENT HVAC company!
First, he doesn't have a clue as to the 'C' on the stat... then, he condemns your working unit (due to amp draw)... then come to find out HE NEVER HOOKED UP GAUGES!!!
Boy, if you believe THAT guy... you have SUCKER tattooed across your forehead!