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01-28-2012, 05:08 AM #53
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02-08-2012, 08:45 PM #54
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I'm making 13.50 out of trade school with a review in 30 days and every 3 months. Got the job this week. Hope this helps.
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02-19-2012, 07:18 PM #55
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Hourly Rate
I started out at $12/hr right out of tech school. I did have my associates degree and went back to school and got certified and also got my Universal certification. My advice would be to not be to picky because the real money will be made one you have actual field experience and you are capable of troubleshooting equipment. But i wouldn't accept anything less than $10 an hour with tech school experience. You make more than 8 an hour working for grocery stores. The key to starting at $10/hr or more is to sell yourself to potential employers. Even though employers have jobs to offer you need to make it very apparent that you offer skills that they can leverage off to make much more off from you every hour than you will be making each hour.
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02-20-2012, 05:54 AM #56
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average service tech. hourly rate?
An apprentice service techniciean isn't a good idea. Why not start them in installation and let them develop an all around understanding of proper and improper systems, move them into P&M later and let them mature into a full fledged technician. Hire decent human beings with a good work ethic, moral conscience and people skills and then teach them HVAC. Technical abilities are only half of what you really need. I'd start them all, when fresh out of an HVAC program, at $9 on a 30 day trial basis and regularly evaluate as they develop. Low starting salary with frequent raises on merit keeps them interested and you from over-paying.
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02-20-2012, 11:44 AM #57
One thing I hear from employers is, they don't like guys that "move around" from co. to co.
IF you are going to start a apprentice out at McD's wages, what do you REALLY expect? If a guy/gal goes out and gets the required certs, gets a classroom education, and comes to the table with basic minium tools, they have already INVESTED into their future.
A new person starting out, is gonna do the undesireable work. Digging holes, running ductwork, pushing a broom and other assorted grunt work. Get it? GRUNT work. Yes, every person needs to know how to do the grunt work.
You have to consider though, that if UNSKILLED and uneducated labor is paying 8-9 bucks an hour WHY would someone want to work for you for the same, maybe less, and work alot harder!
Most of us have student loans to pay for, in addition to the bills at home. IF you were talking about some kid that still lives to home, then I can SEE paying some less. But for a person with bills, minimum wage or barely above it doesn't cut it.
It kinda goes to the other side of te coin, when Mike Rowe was talking about a shortage of skilled labor. Who in the right mind would want to get educated and invest in various things to be a HVAC tech to make just over minimum wage? Sure, most people lOVE what they do. So far, I love hvac too. Love the science and challenges it presents. However, the attitudes of a guy having to work for peanuts doesn't appeal at all. Isn't going into the HVAC trade SUPPOSED to be a step or two ABOVE "welcome to Wal-mart" or "Do you want fries with that?"
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02-20-2012, 12:06 PM #58
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Since when is working overtime a necessity to being a good worker? Maybe the guys got kids he needs to tend too., which would be a good quality in an employee; taking care of his family. Oh and being willing to work for a poverty hourly rate of eight bucks an hour is considered a man in your eyes? I would think him more of a man telling you Hell no Ill go with the slave driver up the street for 11 bucks an hour.
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02-20-2012, 12:09 PM #59
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Careers are built, not granted. Work your way up.
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02-20-2012, 12:10 PM #60
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02-20-2012, 12:13 PM #61
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02-20-2012, 01:34 PM #62
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35 years so far !
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02-20-2012, 05:14 PM #63
You're right. However, bills don't get paid on future wages. They get paid in the here and now.
I see nothing wrong with starting at the bottom. However, can you not see the irony in paying an educated worker whom has invested much, the same as unskilled and likely uneducated labor that asks if you want fries with your burger?
I don't think I was ever suggesting that a employee should be granted a career. I am suggesting that IF we want to keep skilled labor then we should pay them BETTER than wal-mart or McD's would pay them. I don't see what could be confusing about that.
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02-20-2012, 05:24 PM #64
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Maybe we should clarify what area you live in. $9 is good starting pay in Appalachia Where there are few jobs and the cost of living is lower., but is laughable in New York City.
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02-20-2012, 05:29 PM #65
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Let's clarify where you live. In New York $9 is laughable, in Appalachia it's acceptable. Also, what other work experience do you have ? An ex- plumber or Electrician may warrant more entry salary than someone with no background or experience.



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