Welll...well .....well

[James 3528]

You psychosis ridden sky is falling alarmist that preach about the Patriot Act taking away your freedoms just got really F**KED by the Supreme Court today.

[ralphtheplumber]

Link, please..

[James 3528]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050623/D8ATEQV80.html

[bootlen]

That's the crap ya get when the dem/libs won't approve a conservative Justice.

I hope some lib Senator gets his house dozed.

[ralphtheplumber]

what a stupid decision.

still having some trouble figuring out what it has to do with the patriot act, though.

[James 3528]

Originally posted by ralphtheplumber
what a stupid decision.

still having some trouble figuring out what it has to do with the patriot act, though.

Read my post several times , then read the post of the moon beams I was addressing.

[bb]

Originally posted by ralphtheplumber
what a stupid decision.

still having some trouble figuring out what it has to do with the patriot act, though.

Because it was the 5 liberal supreme court justices that just trampled on your civil liberties to own your property without the worry of the city or govn. to be able to permit it for"PRIVATE" or public eminent domain.

All the ballyhooing from the libs about the patriot act impinging on your rights and it turns out that they are the one's taking away your rights.

Hypocrits.

Here's a similar story about eminent domain. In Arlington TX, the Dallas Cowboys and the City of Arlinton had reach an agreement to move the Cowboys to Arlington from Irving.

A few proposed sites were chosen and the citizens of Arlington had a vote to decide whether or not the Cowboy's new home would be Arlington.

We voted yes.

A lot of homes will be destroyed but the differance here is that we were allowed to vote on it.

This ruling set precedence for the city to just do it now without a vote or say from the citizens.

[Edited by bb on 06-23-2005 at 08:11 PM]

[caosesvida]

I am totally against this kind of legal BS, this is not a matter of need, to put up a shopping mall. This is another way for rich people to get richer at the expense of the poor. This goes to show you that the (liberal) supreme court is not liberal at all but money orientated.

[cehs]

One way arround this would be to make another LAW that THEY must pay twice the property tax valuation for any condemed property.
At least the highest property tax valuation for the last 20 years.....

[remember]

james, if you can tell me why you think there are ANY liberals on the supreme court.... I will agree with you ,they are hipocrites.

but there are no liberals on the supreme court.

only kangaroos.

this is a huge story..... but as usual. you have taken it out of context and are therefor barking up the wrong tree.


the distinction between liberal and conservative members of the supreme court is propaganda.

they are ALL the tools of the establishment.
NONE have any integrity.

they just get to impose opinion upon the land.



this is a crime against this country... taking away property rights from the people, as grievous as the stamp act was in 1700's.


the fifth amendment...."....,nor be deprived of life,liberty, or property without due process of law,nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation"



the crime is construing private developers investments and possible capital gains as a "public use".just because local gov't gets a cut.

the only thing they can say is that this crime has been done before. after all, utility projects, are public land given to private intrests.(remember jp morgans company...con edison)and the people pay, and the owners of the utility, make money.

or a private consortium that incorporates a "transit authority" that is then allowed to raise capital, condemn and confiscate private property. put a toll road in. and charge everyone to do it.

and besides the costs that the users of that road have to pay... they pay for the profits going to the people who make up that consortium.
so in a sense, this decision does build upon what is already the case..... but it builds on something that has been abused and only enables more abuse.



what country....of the people,for the people,by the people?

its been incorporated.

and anyone caught in the trap of liberal/conservative are among the masses allowing this erosion to happen, by way of being distracted and put off course by establishment propaganda.right wing and left wing.... same bird.


o'connors points of the dissent, pretty much hit the nail on the head.the gov't gets to do whatever it likes as long as it crosses its t's and dots its I's.

any house can be replaced by a store. and any motel 6 can be replaced by a ritz. and any mom and pop store can be replaced by a big box store.

by force of gov't.


this is a basic affront to the gov't of the people , by the people ,for the people.

not only are these people being screwed by new london pissant politicians. but america is being changed.

now people no longer are protected from being put off their land by people with more money.


eminent domain is bad enough when it is a public use project like a road or utility line.... but at least that IS a public use.sorta...but


this is a private use.

and for the court to extend that "public" definition to money paid in taxes to local gov'ts. means the constitution is again a little more meaningless.you republicans should be happy about that.


if someone has enough money(which any major developer/corporation does), all they have to do is pay a prostitute/ consultantcy firm, to "asses" the money to be made by their project , and that satisfies the courts stipulation that it be a public use.

it is like enron buying auditing papers from arthur anderson saying their accounting practices were legit.

and pay to get a mayor and some council members on board, to make the call in the first place.

and any little person with anything a big corporation wants, will have no choices.


this is on top of the supreme court which just recently stomped on "states rights" again. when it denied the states to make their own medical decisions.

this court comes out all over the place. they make bad decisions.from all diferent standpoints,conservative and liberal. these people are stooges of money. and that is it.

they are in the process of making the king ,the law.


they all ought to be fired!!!!!!!
tarred and feathered, really.


but james , don't think this is a liberal thing.
these people don't stand up for liberal causes. and they are not liberals.

and they are not conservatives.

they are prostitutes, who are making a mockery of law, and justice in our country.




and why make a law about paying twice the valuation price?

this is a free country right?
people have the right to their property?(or they used to)

if a developer wants your 100,000 dollar property.

he will have to pay you whatever you want.that is a free market.if his project is going to be really good. he will have to negotiate. and if he wants to pay 1,000,000 dollars, to the last holdout , to get the whole parcel.... let him.

that is the free market.

where the hell are you conservatives, who talk about free markets?not just twice the valuation or any set fee.

and if the person has no intention to leave. the fifth amendment used to at least protect people from purely private confiscation of their land.now those private entities can"hire" the local govt to do its bidding.


and the way things are these days.
they will probably get tax incentives to do it.

if they create a few mediocre paying jobs.


the sky is falling .

[Edited by remember on 06-24-2005 at 09:30 AM]

[James 3528]

You're a flaming idiot.


This is what people like you do. When there is a obvious example of liberals fu*king us, there not liberals anymore. Everyone else in the world defines the judges, politicians and even media talking heads as either liberal or conservative but you have another definition. But all conservatives and republicans are dirt bags in your and Howard Deans book



Say your mindless schizophrenic ramblings.

[remember]

no james

you are a flaming idiot.


the rest of your world you are talking about is the propaganda outlets of the establishment.

not everyone sees things in black and white.like they have been told to.

you show me why these people are liberal?

you show me anyone who has made their decisions along any consistant ideology. they appear liberal on this one, conservative on that one.

whatever liberal and conservative mean.

I'm not playing tiddlywinks with you here jamie.

you show me a liberal.
or conversely a conservative.

is it liberal to erode the constitution? is it conservative to erode the constitution?


just like the establishment is both the democrats and the republicans. they are all federalists. and so is the court.
and their decisions show they don't have a point of view. they come down all over the place.
yet coincidences come about because all of these casesd have economic implications/litigants.

and it is the money, that is the only constant in their decision making.


so show me a liberal?that is somehow different than a conservative.

I agree, they are fu7king us.

but they are not liberals, except in the sense of the word that they are allowing the country to go down the road of creeping fascism.is that liberal?or conservative?both I say.

[James 3528]

Like I said....


schizophrenic ramblings