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    When was Lennox nas a family buis? Or do you mean the family buis was bought by service experts

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    I worked ten years for a great company, first as a tech, then as a manager. It was great until they sold to LENNOX NASS, then it was straight downhill from there. I havent been on hvac talk for a long time, thought i would jump on and see how awful NAS is doing, as I heard they were. Good to see they are in rough shape. Looks like the customer has figured out what they are all about finally, and that most employees have caught on by now. Couple more years and Joe and sidekick J.J. should be out of a job. Everything I have read so far is so true. I was a manager for these morons, and am proud to say I pulled out right away, and was able to get back to where I was before they took over. The writing on the wall was simple, screw the techs, screw the customers, and praise the morons in fort lauderdale. I wasn't having it. Best move I, and from what Ive read, tons of other people have made....Heard they acquired all the Lowes in the country, for pennies on the dollar...... lets hope this is the final straw...... this should finish them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by heatingman View Post
    When was Lennox nas a family buis? Or do you mean the family buis was bought by service experts
    Yes, that's what he meant.

    I saw the same thing happen to a very well known and respected company out of West Chester, Pa.

    Lennox/SE bought them out and everybody ran for the exits.
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    Small world!

    That's the branch I was referring to. Wesley Wood, Westtown Rd. who might you be? Pm me if you don't want to post it. I had a good time with the crew until SE took complete control.

  5. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by jdilks View Post
    I would beg to differ with the pope. NAS is owned by Lennox. Just the same as Armstrong, Heat Craft, Service Experts and the others. At NAS we are the manufactures rep. on the commercial side. We provide warranty and startup / commissioning services to some pretty big commercial retail giants. It sounds like Pope worked for a poorly managed branch, my apologizes if this is the case. We do pay all but the 1st and last 30 minutes of your travel time for the day. We are one of the largest retail National Service companies in the country and we continue to grow as most companies are struggling.
    At NAS we want to retain & grow the right technicians. Training is always offered via a learning website with topics from basic electricity to calculating air flow to MS Office or at other venues and we even have our own training center in South Florida. Of course we don't work on too many chillers or refrigeration so hiring a "Top Dog Chiller Tech" is not something we would need in our work force. For the most part we service 5 - 50 ton rooftop package units and we do it better than anyone else in the country.
    I have been with NAS since 1999. I started as a service technician in SoFlo and transferred to GA and then NC. As I have proven myself in the field I was asked / offered a position as a branch manager and after proving myself for several years in that capacity I have accepted a position as a district manager covering 2 states. We do require technicians to be responsible and accountable for the work they perform and can honestly say the company will always do the right thing in regards to the technician & the customer or I wouldn't have been here as long as I have.
    Sorry to ramble on and I hope some of this made sense, but I had to jump in and defend the company that has treated my family & I so good for the past 12 years from one person that may have not had the best experience. And Pope I was not by any means trying to do anything other than state my experience here. Again I apologize if the experience you personally had or know about was as poor as you have described.
    I am not on here that often but if I can answer any other questions let me know.
    One more thing, with over 60 branches, 200+ techs (most of them NATE certified) on the road, I'm sure there are plenty of answers you could get from them. Find your local branch and ask the manger if you can speak with some techs. They will answer anything you need to know.
    I know first-hand most of what is posted here re LNAS is true. They are absolutely profit driven, which in & of itself isn’t bad, unless you disregard the human element required to earn profits! I worked for Lennox for almost 9 years in upper management. For 4+ years I was Executive Assistant to Joe G (the ABSOLUTE WORST job I have ever had), I left for 5 months in 2008 then returned as their HR Manager thinking things would be better with a different supervisor. Previous/current LNAS employees who post here know now exactly who I am, and I think you know that I always did my very best for you guys, and for Lennox as a whole. While I too admire poster & LNAS employee Jim Dilks’ dedication to his employer, his situation is truly not the standard. I too was as dedicated an employee as he, however, employee dedication does nor correlate in the least with job security at LNAS. In my experience I’ve witnessed employees just as dedicated as he (and I) terminated for a multitude of reasons! Joanne B and Dawn L come to mind at corporate; and in the field many techs who are offered management positions aren’t trained adequately and find themselves unable to succeed at their new position and unable to return to tech status. My personal experience is this, in LNAS’ growth process the need arose for a more experienced HR person. I understood that; and I dutifully trained my new boss Karen C on the processes at LNAS. I found it disconcerting that she turned a blind eye to my one single recommendation for departmental efficiency: ADDITIONAL STAFF. FYI - The standard HR staff to employee ratio is 1 HR person to 100 employees. I was operating at 1-200 before the Tradewinds & Benner acquisitions and after them, and Karen’s arrival, we were 2 - 450. Yes, mistakes were made as a result of short staffing (even though I was working 8-10 hrs weekly from home to meet deadlines) and I complained insistently about it because it resulted in human errors, and since I did payroll, I was the human making them. You should know that payroll for 200-400 employees weekly is a function where there will ALWAYS be errors because of quantity of records calculated; and not all errors are made by the payroll department, most are made at the branch reporting level. Most companies have policies in place to make good for the employees when payroll errors happen. Lennox chooses not to have such a provision, as a matter of fact they prohibit the branch managers from using their petty cash accounts to pay techs in cases of errors to pay. Karen’s policy on errors became zero tolerance and my first (and only disciplinary action at LNAS) was noted ‘final warning’. That was in in August 2012, in January 2013, I made another and I was asked to resign. I feel as though LNAS set me up to fail and I told them that on my departure, and now I hear they are indeed planning to add to their HR staff. Karen C had the audacity advise me they would not protest an unemployment claim as though it were a gracious gesture on their part, when in fact they could not have protested a claim due to the baseless nature of my termination. I know the email circulated said I moved on to bigger & better things but unfortunately for the sender, by the time the email was sent I had discussed the reason for my departure with most of the staff at corporate, so the senders’ co-workers knew it was dishonest when they read it. As it turns out, I found a job working for a commercial real estate attorney, I started the Monday after leaving Lennox. I think I am going to be very happy there and I am grateful to no longer be a part of the LNAS fiasco.

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    Glad you are doing well Debra. We have interacted in the past. Hope you do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maynard View Post
    Glad you are doing well Debra. We have interacted in the past. Hope you do well.
    Thanks Maynard. I remember you. I guess it will be awhile before my memory relinquishes the names of all the techs (and managers as well) whose payroll I did each week at LNAS for all those years.

    Stay well, and I wish you the best too!

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    Glad you made it out .I was out of springfield ,ma .When we were aquired from tradewinds there were 4 techs and a manager. Two were laid off ,two left and manager left in one year. I remember talking to you on phone . Good luck Rick

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    It's the truth, AND you have to be at your first call by 8, sure, f me harder, I'm stupid. Its all true, The guy defending them, must be in management.Its the biggest joke of a cluster f I ever saw, except for maybe Sears.A bunch of clueless asses.They're all headed for the brick wall.

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    Jim go crawl back under the rock you came out from under....you don't even want me to get started listing the less than honorable lnas and namely you have done to employees in your reason not to mention customers. Its all smoke and mirrors and you my pal are nothing more than the hvac version of a slicked back hair used car salesman. I doubt this thread contains enough character slots for me to pen the things I can prove let alone address the rumors. If you are looking a position in the commercial hvac field avoid lnas under dilks at all costs. Lennox is a good company, this region and its management is the issue. Dilks still manages a branch and if any other branch out performs his, rather than address his location's inefficiency, he uses his postion to bring issues to those who out perform him, seen it over and over. I understand you defending the company as the company itself is a great one but any one who has previously worked under you will unequivocally agree with me. Id wager that 75%+ of the personnel that has departed lnas in that district, whether by resignation or termination, was a result of being shaftef either directly or indirectly by this individual. So there are way more techs out there with this experience than not with lnas and almost all, I'd wager, in this particular district....ANY TAKERS? and by all means JD please reply....I am one person who never feared or even respected you as you deserved neither....you always hated that too. And for record his puppet manager made a bogus repair (TXV bulb out in attic air space no where near suction line) and it was put on me to avoid pay raise. If jd came to a halt this managers head would disappear....I suppose thats why he was sthoo thsuccessful!

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    I could not agree with you more. He is something special.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech2559 View Post
    Jim go crawl back under the rock you came out from under....you don't even want me to get started listing the less than honorable lnas and namely you have done to employees in your reason not to mention customers. Its all smoke and mirrors and you my pal are nothing more than the hvac version of a slicked back hair used car salesman. I doubt this thread contains enough character slots for me to pen the things I can prove let alone address the rumors. If you are looking a position in the commercial hvac field avoid lnas under dilks at all costs. Lennox is a good company, this region and its management is the issue. Dilks still manages a branch and if any other branch out performs his, rather than address his location's inefficiency, he uses his postion to bring issues to those who out perform him, seen it over and over. I understand you defending the company as the company itself is a great one but any one who has previously worked under you will unequivocally agree with me. Id wager that 75%+ of the personnel that has departed lnas in that district, whether by resignation or termination, was a result of being shaftef either directly or indirectly by this individual. So there are way more techs out there with this experience than not with lnas and almost all, I'd wager, in this particular district....ANY TAKERS? and by all means JD please reply....I am one person who never feared or even respected you as you deserved neither....you always hated that too. And for record his puppet manager made a bogus repair (TXV bulb out in attic air space no where near suction line) and it was put on me to avoid pay raise. If jd came to a halt this managers head would disappear....I suppose thats why he was sthoo thsuccessful!

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    my lennox experiance :(

    I started at lennox knowing a bit about them from someone else who worked for them who they fired, due to not reporting a small injurie which required very little attention, and this person had been with them since tradewinds a total of 8 years 3 of them with lennox. Anyway, shame on me for taking the job knowing what I know. But I have a family and needed the hours and health Iinsurance, which are the only perks for working here (though the health ins. Aint that great but works) I also wanted to get out of residential too. Its been the worst experience and the worse 1 1/2 yrs of my life.
    It feels like hell being stretched to the inth degree for cooperate profits, and all I still hear is numbers this and numbers that. This is just the surface. My family life has gone down the tubes due to my time and energy being gulped up by nas, ive became a desensitized prick, I mean technician. F**k nas! I want my life back!

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    Guys who are considering this outfit, take note.
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