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  1. #1
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    Thumbs up Metro Vancouver Job Outlook

    Hi all. I appreciate you reading this post. So I'm taking a pre-apprenticeship course at JARTS to get a better idea of the trade. It's been helpful. I'll come away with a CFC ticket and Transportation of dangerous goods license. I also have my gasfitter C ticket. I guess that makes me somewhat useful right away for my future employer.

    Does anyone have any other ideas for training that would be a benefit to my skills and, in turn, my future employer as well?

    ...and what is the market looking like these days for new helpers/apprentices trying to get started in the Lower Mainand? Some guys I have talked to say it's best to take any offer you can get whether it's residential, markets, whatever. Instructors have told me to hold out for a commercial/ industrial outfit as I could potentially learn more and they thought it was more up my alley.

    Either way, I'm really looking forward to getting started and making progress into becoming a good reliable tech.

    Thanks for any input you can offer everyone. This newbie really appreciates it!!

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    Don't screw up and you wont be screwed later

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    I wouldn't advise against passing up any related job opportunities at this point. Of course getting in with a commercial/industrial company would be better in my opinion, there's still a lot you could learn doing residential.

    Just apply at the top commercial companies first and work your way down the list. You never know who might be looking for an apprentice.

    Having said that, we are definitely not in the job market we were in 3-4 years ago so don't be too picky. I definitely didn't start with my "ideal" employer from day one, and gradually built up my skills to get the next opportunity. Just keep learning and pushing yourself to progress and you'll be fine.

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    On the comm/indust refrigeration side that I do there is a very big shortage on experienced journey men.

    That's the catch, they are looking for journey men at this time.

    I would suggest to try to stay away for the residential stuff, you will be more valuable if you are good and can do refrigeration at an earlier and faster rate.

    Find out if jarts is offering after hours night classes, usually reserved for members, if you pay and show the desire to learn more than the guy next to you it'll pay off.

    good luck.

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    Cheers for the replies you guys!

    I figured it won't be easy to find a spot somewhere at this time. I just have to keep on trying with putting out the resumes, networking and persevering and hope someone sees some good in me to give me a shot, or I get timing on my side.

    I really want to get a chance and build some skills so staying positive and motivated is the only way I can think to go about it.

    Thanks for posting!

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    cooljob, I cannot message you. Can you email me?

    it is mechatronics911atyahooodotcom

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    I'm also looking to get into the Jarts Pre-apprentice program in September. Any idea how it was?

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    Broad coverage of the basics of the trade. Time restraints of class time due to a short course length lend to a light scratching of the surface of what you need to know. It's no fault of JARTS, there's just so much to learn in refrigeration, it's
    impossible to get too in-depth in a mere 36 hours. Still learned good info though. Great to have evening classes if you're working days as well.
    BCIT has a pre-app course but it's 6 months full-time. Dont know anyone who has taken it. Was out of the question for me to take that time away from my bread and butter.

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    cooljob, have you been in contact with other students of jarts? Did thay get a job?

    I think to break into this market, you need to be a younger guy in his mid 30s. Just to much time to invest in training, then apprenticeship. But maybe I am wrong?

    Do you have 3,500 dollars and willing to live in Penticton for a few months to get more advanced training? I think jarts is a little to short for training. But for me, I was helping out some of the other students with some of the mechanical items "I have a former mechanical background in aviation and electronics background"

    Take a look at this http://webapps-1.okanagan.bc.ca/ok/c...hipCertificate

    When was the last time a professional viewed your resume?

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    I hope things out west are good for ya . Things in Ontario are just awful for anyone looking to get into the trade. I got my gas tickets and have good knowledge of the trade but theres just sooo many people who took second career to get out of automotive and got gas tech tickets that it has clogged the market or even made employers hesitant to hire people out of trade school. I studied 2 years at fanshawe to get into this trade and im having a super hard time finding anyone to take me on.
    There is just so many people with the exact same qualifications as me. I really wish I would have known that before i went to school but i guess I will always have my gas ticket and ODP/cfc ticket. Im 22 right now so i have time but i really want to start soon.

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    funny, your leaving the automotive trade because it has problems

    I guess it is called glutville. I am tempted to go into a office, with luck, and interview a manager. Sounds kind of funny, but mabey I should have done this before the classes. BTW, I think you can use your gas and enviro tickets to work on AC systems, or propane injection on automobiles??

    yes, 22 is very very young. Heck, I entered the military to become a helicopter mechanic. but wanted to peruse it more in the civilian world. Getting tired of the crap in the service Maybe should have changed careers into something little nicer like parachute tech. At least those guys are not banging ho's on some weekend night or getting in bloody fights when a party goes aray in the dorms. It was hard for me to get any kind of sleep on weekends in the military.

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    Im not leaving automotive haha i have never and cant say i want to work in the auto industry.I just worked in a deli and we constantly had guys coming in to fix our walk in coolers and display units and i thought it seemed cool so I guess I should have thought over my options before taking the course. My neighbor and his brother one is a tin whacker and the other works for a big hvac and plumbing company were always telling me that i should get into the trade. I guess its like firefighting or teaching. Do my school keep studying up on the trade and do something else for 4 to 5 years until i find something.

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    wester, how much money did you invest?

    I was warned it was hard to enter into the trade. How about you? what did you have to invest in it?

    I am just going to stop at every company, and hopefully catch a few min with the managers. While I am at those locations, pass out some cards for my business to other business in the area, and write off the mileage on my truck.

    Its really funny. I can really sell my self to a possible prospective customer in my current trade "telecom or auto", but yet, not land a interview for a hvac company Guess the companies do not want to hire some one who has enough drive to be a self reliant technician and a "get it done no matter what attitude"

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