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    Hi,

    Any recomendations between Payne and Ducane Central Air conditioning units? What's better?

    Apreciate any advice. Thanks

    Mike

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    While the most important part of any job is installation and quality of services, Payne equipment is IMO far better than Ducane.

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    The better machine is the one installed by the better contractor - period. If all the contractors seem the same to you then either they're all hacks or you haven't learned enough to tell the difference.

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    Thanks for the input. It really helps to start somewhere.

    Mike

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    Ducane and Payne are low end equipment from larger manufacturers to compete with goodman/spankitrol. If you don't mind noise either one will do the trick. Yes installation is the most important aspect of the job, weve heard that a million times (well I guess its worth repeating). Good luck.
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    Sorry, didn't answer your question. Payne is better.
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    Just curious; what makes some of you feel that one brand is better then the other?

    Do they have different compressors? Different contactors? Does one have components that the other doesn't? Is the coil of one made of different materials then the other?

    Really; what makes two different brand units of the same capacity and SEER rating different from one another?
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    How about design? Noise levels, ease of repair and maintenance, powder coated paint compared to pop can air handlers. Composite materials instead of tin, combustion blowers with vibration pads etc.
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    The Ducane is a virual clone of the Carrier/Bryant cubes, which are a step UP from the Payne outdoor unit. Ducane's coils most likely come from the Heatcraft/ADP factories. Everyone seems to have a good opinion of ADP coil quality. Payne's evaps come from the US of Mexico and many have an opinion of them!

    I guess I'd spend a bit more on something better built.

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    Originally posted by millerman

    How about design? Noise levels, ease of repair and maintenance, powder coated paint compared to pop can air handlers. Composite materials instead of tin, combustion blowers with vibration pads etc.
    I know for a fact that no brand of condensing unit or air handler has a better combustion blower then any other brand, and this thread is talking about a cooling system.

    You made some suggestions as to what to look for, do you have any data stating that one brand is better then the other?

    As far as composite materials are concerned, I am not yet sold on the fact that they are better. Heat pumps using composite bases that are not on at least 6 pump ups are sagging where the compressor is mounted.
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    Ducane uses scrolls on all heat pumps standard, and 12 seer and up a/c. Also has hinged access panel and angled service valves.

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    I never really had any problems with Payne. And in my opinion the Payne round design is much quieter than Carriers 10 SEER CKC unit (cube design).

    I installed a Payne for my wife’s brother (in Canada mind you) and it has performed flawlessly for years.

    Oh, and to answer your question…I would choose Payne over Ducane.
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    As far as composite materials are concerned, I am not yet sold on the fact that they are better. Heat pumps using composite bases that are not on at least 6 pump ups are sagging where the compressor is mounted.
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    RoBoTeq you have just answered you own question. I you mind a unit made with composite material is inferror to other units. Therefore there is a difference. Also I for one find a big difference in cabnet quality between brands.

    Have a great day!
    Helgy

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