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  1. #1
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    Question

    Looking for advise from professionals:
    Setup:
    NJ, 1-BR condo apt, about 700 sq ft total, BR is 10' X 14',
    LR is 12' X 24', currently have RetroAire RC2012D30AAAM0A in each room (AC 11900 BTU, Heat 10300 BTU), no thermostats.

    Problems:
    1. January's electric bill was $350 (~$200 came from PTACs)
    2. Noise level
    3. Ugly
    4. No thermostats

    Questions:
    1. would it make sense to replace RetroAire with something like
    Carrier (52PQ 9000 Btu PTAC Heat Pump)
    or
    Trane (PTHD0901GAA 9000 Btu PTAC Heat Pump) ?

    2. Why are the Trane's models are twice more expensive?
    the specs are almost the same, what's the catch?

    3. Which one is actually better Carrier or Trane ?

    Thanks in advance

  2. #2
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    Did you check sleeve size?

    How about GE's 5800 heat pump? Quietest unit I've heard, certainly beats the Carrier. I haven't heard a new Trane. 2 motor design, backup runs with the compressor which is rare, digital stat. GE has a service fleet.

  3. #3
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    PTAC

    I agree with the Bald One; GE is the best Ptac. I would take the Trane over the Carrier. Without going into details, believe me, Carrier Ptacs have very rocky past!

  4. #4
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    GE's 5800 heat pump, looking at the info i manage to find, it looks good, but GE's web site show that it will be available only at the end of 2005.

    Cannot find any info on price for it.


  5. #5
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    Just realized - the wall opening is only 16x36 in.
    All those nice models are min 42 in.
    Should of start with dimensions, as BaldLoonie pointed.

    Now I have 2 choices:
    ether make a bigger hole (could be a problem with the condo management approval)
    or just install t-stats (if possible) for existing units and forget about a nice upgrade...

    Thanks for your responses guys

  6. #6
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    Installing stats onto that system might not be an obviously straightforward job, but there isn't much you can't do with a handful of relays. I'd imagine a good HVAC tech could retrofit that unit to accept a regular programmable stat, which would allow you to set-back the temperature when away, which would reduce your electric bill. They might not be real thrilled with doing it, but it can be done.

  7. #7
    FRIEDRICH - America's best Air Conditioner - says so right on the box.

  8. #8
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    i THINK SANYO HAS ONE TO FIT THAT SLEEVE

  9. #9
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    Forget about PTAC, get a minisplit system. With a dual zone 12 or 13 Seer you will save a grip on electricity. I've put in 6 Fujitsu's in the last few months, they go in easily and are silent. The remote control/programable thermostats are great too.

  10. #10
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    The price of Trane vs. Carrier is a retail issue, not a mfg issue, at the wholesale price point they're within a few dollars.

    If you like the Trane, call Amana - they make it for them. Since these come in a box with cord - they are considered appliances and sold consumer direct by many sources.

    I would concur - a mini split might be a better value.

  11. #11
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    Trane units are no longer made by Amana.

    Chances are they have no choice but stay with what they have. Hanging a mini on the outside of the building probably is a nono

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