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  1. #1
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    I'd like to welcome our Union brothers

    we said "don't vote for the Democrats, you're destroying the country"

    you said "i don't know about the rest of the country but i'm going to vote for the cabal that extorts money from the public and pays my check, who cares if they're Communists"

    hey well, the good times are over and you'll always have your fond memories.

    maybe now after all these years we can start talking about the conservative and libertarian reforms that would help the nation by putting things back where they belong.

    let me prepare you for a shock, when you rejoin the private sector you will see all the loopholes your leaders placed in their Socialist "reformes" so things like "minimum wage", "benefits" and "job security" don't mean sht.

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    I've got news for the economically uninformed. If you adjust GDP for inflation, the economy has not grown for 10 years. There was a major uptick when the stimulus took off last year, but it is headed down again.

    What has changed is income distribution. Almost 75% of the spending economy has traditionally been the middle and lower classes, and their incomes have been drastically cut since the early 1980's. The economic cycles have been there, but each top has been lower. During the past 10 years, we have not grown at all, it has been steady contraction. If growth is adjusted for inflation, the net result of what I believe is the effect of income distribution change up to the higher income groups, is easily identifiable.

    Without substantial structural changes, such as regulatory and taxation changes to redistribute income back down the economic distribution scale, or perhaps massive new innovation that breaks up the corporate status quo, we can expect even more serious economic problems in the near future. The economic data that I have indicates extreme weakness in the economy and it has and is getting progressively more serious.

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    I worked a ASCME union job for awhile. The doctors laughed at the heath insurance and I was eligible for food stamps. Different everywhere I am sure, but if your want to raise an army of protesters just piss off the ranks of the unemployed by *****ing about your pay and benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mojo View Post
    I've got news for the economically uninformed. If you adjust GDP for inflation, the economy has not grown for 10 years. There was a major uptick when the stimulus took off last year, but it is headed down again.

    What has changed is income distribution. Almost 75% of the spending economy has traditionally been the middle and lower classes, and their incomes have been drastically cut since the early 1980's. The economic cycles have been there, but each top has been lower. During the past 10 years, we have not grown at all, it has been steady contraction. If growth is adjusted for inflation, the net result of what I believe is the effect of income distribution change up to the higher income groups, is easily identifiable.

    Without substantial structural changes, such as regulatory and taxation changes to redistribute income back down the economic distribution scale, or perhaps massive new innovation that breaks up the corporate status quo, we can expect even more serious economic problems in the near future. The economic data that I have indicates extreme weakness in the economy and it has and is getting progressively more serious.
    so are you saying the government should take more money from people who earn it and give it to those who don't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    so are you saying the government should take more money from people who earn it and give it to those who don't?
    You miss a piece.

    ...we can expect even more serious economic problems in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mojo View Post
    I've got news for the economically uninformed. If you adjust GDP for inflation, the economy has not grown for 10 years. There was a major uptick when the stimulus took off last year, but it is headed down again.

    What has changed is income distribution. Almost 75% of the spending economy has traditionally been the middle and lower classes, and their incomes have been drastically cut since the early 1980's. The economic cycles have been there, but each top has been lower. During the past 10 years, we have not grown at all, it has been steady contraction. If growth is adjusted for inflation, the net result of what I believe is the effect of income distribution change up to the higher income groups, is easily identifiable.

    Without substantial structural changes, such as regulatory and taxation changes to redistribute income back down the economic distribution scale, or perhaps massive new innovation that breaks up the corporate status quo, we can expect even more serious economic problems in the near future. The economic data that I have indicates extreme weakness in the economy and it has and is getting progressively more serious.
    mojo, I am afraid that facts do not get much weight here. Proposed sane solutions get less weight.

    The robber barons are back at work here. We saw the same crash in our economy in 1929. The causes were almost identical. The big difference is this time we bailed the robber barons out. They are doing just fine and are back to business as usual. The other 98% of the people will continue to see a decline in their quality of life.

    Those damn Democrats.
    Signature on hold. Trying to find a real Jefferson quote I like. Others here have bogus Jefferson quotes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgrr View Post
    mojo, I am afraid that facts do not get much weight here. Proposed sane solutions get less weight.

    The robber barons are back at work here. We saw the same crash in our economy in 1929. The causes were almost identical. The big difference is this time we bailed the robber barons out. They are doing just fine and are back to business as usual. The other 98% of the people will continue to see a decline in their quality of life.

    Those damn Democrats.
    I feel people don't quite comprehend what I meant about no true GDP growth for 10 years,well we are seeing it first hand.

    At this point is the best time to let facts speak for themselves,if you look back through the history of since 1986 when the cross over between decline of manufacturing and the increase in financial market,tax breaks upon tax breaks up til now and the apathy and igorance and division this country faces we as Americans have only ourselves to blame.

    If you could put it in a nutshell credit borrowing has done us in.


    Those damn Republicans.

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    Trump/Nugent for Pres/VP!!
    G T T

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    All you anti union should be so proud that your children will never make the living that you do

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    Quote Originally Posted by seawood View Post
    All you anti union should be so proud that your children will never make the living that you do
    My kids are hardworkers and they will do very well because they have a good work ethic and are smart hard workers, they don't need a union that hurts business and protects lazy hacks to help them, they will be able to take care of themselves.

    My oldest daughter wants to be an occupational therapist working with disabled children because she has a hearing disability, but she also wants to get her contractors license and learn the different aspects of the construction, HVAC and plumbing business.

    She works for me on the building I am working on, and she is a great worker, my superintendant was a bit worried when I told him she was going to work for us on the job, but after she was there, he was very happy with her and told me she was welcome on the jobsite anytime and that she is a great worker.

    I hope my son will be as good a worker as she is, if he isn't, he won't last long working on my jobs, so if he is a lazy slacker, I will tell him to go get a union job.

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    If you want to be informed about the depth of our problems follow the guys at WWW.Streettalklive.com. Very good place for the uninformed to learn from
    I'm not tolerating Political Correctness anymore, from now on it's tell it like it is.

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    A union of all the same age, all the same work, and all the same pay will stand.
    The rest will be divided and conquered.
    Companies only have to identify a 51 percent majority and throw them a bone, the rest become trading stock.

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