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  1. #27
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    Being queer is indefensible....it is unnatural and wrong. There is no way on Earth to justify being queer. It is a mutation or flaw in the genetic code propagated by those with poor gene pools that needs to be eradicated and not nurtured.
    Absolutely no good can come from this in the broad scheme of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    OK, let's say we do a random survey of two groups, heterosexual people and homosexual people. We'll find out what percentage of each group thinks sex between an adult and a minor is wrong. Anyone want to predict the result?
    Is this a trick question?

    Are all of the gays Catholic priests, or are some of the gays non Catholic priest gays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    You missed the point. It's a tendency, not an "all or nothing" deal. Individuals who practice homosexuality tend to be more liberal thinkers in other areas both related and unrelated to their sexual behavior. In simple terms, they just tend to think more things are "OK".
    Yeah I missed the point, I just can't see the homosexuals I know saying that child molestation is ok.

    I think homosexuality has been around forever, the fact that we're forced to publicly deal with it now can't be a bad thing. Bad preists are an example of what happens when it's something to be kept a secret, It doesn't go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy73 View Post
    Bad preists are an example of what happens when it's something to be kept a secret, It doesn't go away.
    They have a catchy motto:

    "Absinence makes the Church grow fondlers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy73 View Post
    Yeah I missed the point, I just can't see the homosexuals I know saying that child molestation is ok.
    You just haven't met enough of them. BTW, they might not define it as molestation. Remember, these are the people who want to redefine what is normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    They might not define it as molestation. Remember, these are the people who want to redefine what is normal.
    That's probably true to some extent.

    But lets get back to the initial statement:
    OK, let's say we do a random survey of two groups, heterosexual people and homosexual people. We'll find out what percentage of each group thinks sex between an adult and a minor is wrong
    Consider this- Muslims accept child rape as part of a healthy lifestyle. Catholics (the priests anyway) are also pro-child molestation. Yet both of these groups are completely anti-queer.

    I have a feeling that the gays are probably less likely to condone child rape when you compare them against groups of people who are either Catholic or Muslim...



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    Quote Originally Posted by k_fridge View Post
    Marriage is a state matter.
    Is it? I suggest it is neither a federal nor local government matter. A marriage license is nothing more than a source of income for the State. It should be left to the Churches. If the gay's want to go and start their own United Church of the Queer Society that will marry them than so be it. My problem is that marriage is defined as between a man and a woman in every religion and society throughout history....at least as far as I know. I don't care if they get all the "equal rights" under a civil union. They will be judged by God, not me. They want to be "Married" because it is an attack against organized religion, a slap in the face if you will....IMO.
    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what will never be. (Thomas Jefferson 1816)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy73 View Post
    A young chick dressing like a slut in public is the same as a young fag prancing in a pride parade.
    Not in my world, of course I am on earth, so a young chick dressing like a slut in public I could accept a lot easier.
    A young fag prancing in a gay pride parade, now that's just sick, and has a reverse effect on my Viagra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    You just haven't met enough of them. BTW, they might not define it as molestation. Remember, these are the people who want to redefine what is normal.
    Fair enough, I try hard to not form opinions about people unless I know enough of them. I'm related to or friends with under twenty of them so I guess that's not enough to form an honest opinion, and the real flamers don't like me cause I'm a big mouth so I guess my experience is biased.

    A friend of mine on FB said what Obama did is unconstitutional, is that the federal vs state power struggle that others mentioned earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    Not in my world, of course I am on earth, so a young chick dressing like a slut in public I could accept a lot easier.
    A young fag prancing in a gay pride parade, now that's just sick, and has a reverse effect on my Viagra.
    Ha, me too! I meant some people in each camp look down on those crazy kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib's Son View Post
    Is it? I suggest it is neither a federal nor local government matter. A marriage license is nothing more than a source of income for the State. It should be left to the Churches. If the gay's want to go and start their own United Church of the Queer Society that will marry them than so be it. My problem is that marriage is defined as between a man and a woman in every religion and society throughout history....at least as far as I know. I don't care if they get all the "equal rights" under a civil union. They will be judged by God, not me. They want to be "Married" because it is an attack against organized religion, a slap in the face if you will....IMO.
    Marriage carries certain legal rights and also perks like tax breaks and beneficiary benefits. So yes, as long as those things exist, the state has to have domain over it. A good argument could be made that some of these benefits and/or perks afforded to marriage are good for the society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_fridge View Post
    Marriage carries certain legal rights and also perks like tax breaks and beneficiary benefits. So yes, as long as those things exist, the state has to have domain over it. A good argument could be made that some of these benefits and/or perks afforded to marriage are good for the society.
    OK, now someone is going to point out the divorce rate. Then someone else is going to bring up NAMBLA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    OK, now someone is going to point out the divorce rate. Then someone else is going to bring up NAMBLA.

    The high divorce rate is mainly a social problem. People get married for the wrong reasons, and today's people want a disposable society. This definitely decreases the benefits of the institution of marriage, but the problem could be partially remedied.

    NAMBLA is a bunch of sickos that should be castrated.

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