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  1. #1
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    there but for the grace of god, go all of us

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    This has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Originally posted by RoBoTeq
    This has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion.
    I totaly agree.
    Abortion is BEFORE birth, this after the CHILD is born...


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    i know several people who had abortions, all suffer from the effects of this so called choice. all say if they had it to do over they wouldn't. so called feminist claim it is a womans right, but they won't admit to its effects, later in life.
    i wanted to put a picture here

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    IF the child was in the womb in this condition, it would be abortion because you are taking a life, but if the baby is born it is not?? I don't see the difference at all. Except the terminology. A life is a life.
    there but for the grace of god, go all of us

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    Good point, caos.

    Ya know, first they (libs) say these victims are unaware and despondant; then they say they are in constant pain. They (libs) say whatever fits their views for the moment.
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    sort of like...going into I-Crack for the WMDs (that ol'Rumsfield had the exact coordinates on)
    ...and then, tell anyone who's still listening that it's all about liberty and democracy...and the inflated oil revenues at 55$

    is that sort of "say whatever fits their views for the moment" kind of thing?

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    Misuse of terminology is exactly the point, abortion has nothing to do with this case.
    Encyclopedia Article from Encarta

    Abortion

    Abortion, termination of a pregnancy before birth, resulting in the death of the fetus. Some abortions occur naturally because a fetus does not develop normally or because the mother has an injury or disorder that prevents her from carrying the pregnancy to term. This type of spontaneous abortion is commonly known as a miscarriage. Other abortions are induced—that is, intentionally brought on—because a pregnancy is unwanted or presents a risk to a woman’s health, or because the fetus is likely to have severe physical or mental health problems.
    We may use this definition to that abortions do cause the "death" of a fetus which implies that there was "life". However, then there will be discussion as to whether that life is "human life" or as a fetus, something not yet human.

    This also brings up the point that some will argue that this child and it's family could have been spared the heartache of it's short and painful life if an abortion had been performed after recognizing that this child's fetus was in such bad condition.

    Millions of children have died from natural causes over the centuries. Only in todays world are all children give a really good chance of surviving into adulthood.

    Theologically we must understand that the ultimate goal of every spirit is to be released from it's temporary mortal condition.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    "Theologically we must understand..."


    now that's a sad statement.

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    Originally posted by tonys
    "Theologically we must understand..."


    now that's a sad statement.
    And why is that?
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Originally posted by tonys
    sort of like...going into I-Crack for the WMDs (that ol'Rumsfield had the exact coordinates on)
    ...and then, tell anyone who's still listening that it's all about liberty and democracy...and the inflated oil revenues at 55$

    is that sort of "say whatever fits their views for the moment" kind of thing?
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    No. That was the Bill Clinton-screwed-up-Intel kind of thing.

    You really need to learn to use the toilet rather than dumping in your sandbox.

    Hey, ac. Tony's sandbox needs cleaning out again.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

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    Originally posted by RoBoTeq
    Misuse of terminology is exactly the point, abortion has nothing to do with this case.
    Encyclopedia Article from Encarta

    Abortion

    Abortion, termination of a pregnancy before birth, resulting in the death of the fetus. Some abortions occur naturally because a fetus does not develop normally or because the mother has an injury or disorder that prevents her from carrying the pregnancy to term. This type of spontaneous abortion is commonly known as a miscarriage. Other abortions are induced—that is, intentionally brought on—because a pregnancy is unwanted or presents a risk to a woman’s health, or because the fetus is likely to have severe physical or mental health problems.
    We may use this definition to that abortions do cause the "death" of a fetus which implies that there was "life". However, then there will be discussion as to whether that life is "human life" or as a fetus, something not yet human.

    This also brings up the point that some will argue that this child and it's family could have been spared the heartache of it's short and painful life if an abortion had been performed after recognizing that this child's fetus was in such bad condition.

    Millions of children have died from natural causes over the centuries. Only in todays world are all children give a really good chance of surviving into adulthood.

    Theologically we must understand that the ultimate goal of every spirit is to be released from it's temporary mortal condition.
    ================================================== =========

    And where, pray tell, would I find that in Scripture?
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

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    Originally posted by tonys
    "Theologically we must understand..."


    now that's a sad statement.
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    The only thing sad around here is you keep turding up your sandbox.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

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