How Green Are you?

**BACnet** · 02-01-2011, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by secorp

It all started with that damn Indian in the 70's, he was crying because someone threw litter on the highway, once upon a time known as the freeway before lefty green turds got control.

The funny thing is that the actor for that role wasn't even Indian- He was Italian!

// Not kidding, it was entirely staged

**Wendo** · 02-01-2011, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by kirbinster

The green liberals are all BS! Anyone that is green for the sake of being green is just stupid. That said, I have a solar PV electric plant on my roof, drive two Prius, have an Infinity HVAC system and added 20" of blown fiberglass into my attic - but I am not green. I did these things all based on economics.

The solar plant (thanks to rebates and SRECs) paid for itself in under four years and now kicks off about $9,000 to me a year. The two Prius are 2002 and I bought thm in 2005 and 2006 when gas was cheap and nobody wanted them. The Infinity was added a year ago when the state, the feds, the contractor, and Carrier all subsidized it, and the insulation was done for my comfort.

Your welcome for all the stuff we've bought you!!!

**secorp** · 02-01-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by BACnet

The funny thing is that the actor for that role wasn't even Indian- He was Italian!

I did not know that, my tribes Chief and the council were all excited when it happened.

**freezon** · 02-01-2011, 08:16 PM

**tlb** · 02-01-2011, 08:23 PM

i ride a buggy drawn by horse use a hand crank vacuum pump run old refrigerant through sediment filter and reuse dont have lights in my house or plumbing thats how green i am NOT i forgot i capture old refrigerant in large ziploc bag with hole in bottom

**jmac00** · 02-01-2011, 08:41 PM

"going green" means you empty your wallet of Money.

I have a cabin in the Adirondacks that is "Green" sort of.

The Cabin is completely off grid.

I get power from a 1964 single cylinder Lister 4000w Diesel generator (heats a 40 gallon hot water heater and charge batteries and runs for about 4 hours on a half a gallon of deisel) 75watts of solar panels that charge the batteries. The batteries are two 6v golf cart batteries in series that puts out 12v. The batteries run the house through a 1500w inverter. They also run the 12v water pump and the 12v Macerator pump. The refrigerator is a 1954(est) Servel Propane. The stove is also propane.

I wanted to take my home off grid, with Grid tie in. estimated cost of going solar........drum roll, $70,000.....not real cost effective with a ROI of about 40 years

So as you can see going green is kinda waste of time and money.

Even with a Hybrid system of Wind and Solar, it's stupid expensive to "go green"

**midhvac** · 02-01-2011, 10:49 PM

You guys are sure right about how expensive some of the alternatives are, especially the solar stuff. Only rich folks could afford a lot of that stuff. And with decades long paybacks, even if you were still alive, it would be in the junkyard way before then.

**sweat hog** · 02-01-2011, 11:47 PM

I will just say my environmental habits have improved greatly in the last 30 years!
May have been the crucifitions I heard and read about.
My environmental footprint is now an environmental tiptoe.

**CraziFuzzy** · 02-02-2011, 12:09 AM

I'm green when it affects the green in my wallet. I'm on my second CNG car (first was a 97 Crown Vic, this is a bi-fuel 2000 Expedition). Do i drive CNG cars for the environment? Hell no... I drive them because CNG costs $1.33/gallon equivalent.

Wife drives a turbo diesel jetta... is it because it burns clean? No. it gets over 40mpg.. saving money.

Replaced my home water heater with an ultra efficient gas tankless... did I do it to conserve? no way - now it just means I can take showers 4 times as long, using 4 times the water...

Have proposed, drawn up, and contracted out/installed numerous energy efficiency upgrades at the hospital i work at... was any of it to save the environment? no, it was all to save on the millions of dollars we spend on gas and electricity...

**BACnet** · 02-02-2011, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by secorp

I did not know that, my tribes Chief and the council were all excited when it happened.

He made a living playing an Indian in movies, but he was 100% Sicilian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody

**jmac00** · 02-02-2011, 10:15 AM

I am kinda curious as to what the Government/Auto manufactures are going to do in 4 to 6 years when these electric car batteries die off?

what do you do with a GIANT car battery when it dies?

**midhvac** · 02-02-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by jmac00

I am kinda curious as to what the Government/Auto manufactures are going to do in 4 to 6 years when these electric car batteries die off?

what do you do with a GIANT car battery when it dies?

China will buy them for the lead, make toys out of em and ship em back here.

**BACnet** · 02-02-2011, 11:00 AM

Nah. Those batteries are Lithium Ion based. The libs will grind them up and feed them to all of their manic-depressive and bipolar friends.

Lithium As A Drug

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