View Poll Results: Should the Chiller Forum become Pro Only?

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  • Pro Only, I want to share better info

    72 65.45%
  • I want two Forums, Pro and Open

    18 16.36%
  • No, don't change it

    20 18.18%
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  1. #1
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    Chiller Forum Going Pro? VOTE HERE NOW

    It has been brought to my attention that some of the Chiller Pro's would like to make this forum Pro Only or closed to outside/non-member viewers.

    In doing so this would give you guys the capability to exchange documentation and greater detail your explanations/questions/replies.

    Therefor I put it to you for vote. This pole will end on Feb 28, 2011. Majority vote wins.

    Pro Only = I will simply lock this forum to our Professional Members Only.

    Pro and Open = I will leave this forum as is and make another Professional Chiller Forum so you will have both. (Similar to the Controls Area)

    No, don't change it = I leave it as is because I don't want to join as a Professional Member.

  2. #2
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    I happen to be a certified professional in this trade for more than 21 years. I like this site alot and I would gladly apply for pro but what I don't like is the fact that you are required to make a certain amount of posts within a certain amount of time. I think I understand the reasoning behind this, but it's just not for me. I would like to chime in at random and help whenever I spot someone with a problem that I am familliar with or have encountered myself so that I could in turn offer my best possible advice. I think it's easy enough to keep out the majority of DIYs by requesting certification numbers or licensing info and store it with thier e - mail address. If your really that concerned about DIYs, than require the applicant to provide references ( employers, union local etc.) It is because of this "pros" section that I now have to search other sites for answers because I have no access so in turn, I will not be so eager to return the favor.

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    I cast my vote.
    Arguing with your Boss is like wrestling with a pig in
    mud.
    After a while you realize that while you are getting
    dirty, the pig is actually enjoying it.

    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it
    creative problem solving.

    25 years ago we had Bob Hope , Steve Jobs , and Johnny Cash today we have no Hope no Jobs and no Cash !
    I can fix broke but i can't fix stupid !

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    ...Btw I am also a union member.

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithg01 View Post
    I happen to be a certified professional in this trade for more than 21 years. I like this site alot and I would gladly apply for pro but what I don't like is the fact that you are required to make a certain amount of posts within a certain amount of time. I think I understand the reasoning behind this, but it's just not for me. I would like to chime in at random and help whenever I spot someone with a problem that I am familliar with or have encountered myself so that I could in turn offer my best possible advice. I think it's easy enough to keep out the majority of DIYs by requesting certification numbers or licensing info and store it with thier e - mail address. If your really that concerned about DIYs, than require the applicant to provide references ( employers, union local etc.) It is because of this "pros" section that I now have to search other sites for answers because I have no access so in turn, I will not be so eager to return the favor.
    Come on Keith! Ya got 8 posts already, you are better than half way there, what's it gonna hurt? Nothing, what's to gain? A lot! Besides, judging from the poll vote so far, you're gonna be left out if you don't step up soon. As far as keeping out the DIYers, THAT'S what the pro forums do.
    A good HVAC tech knows how, an educated HVAC tech knows why!

    DEM


  6. #6
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    Ok, I will try. And thanks Heaterman, I'm begining to feel the love here !

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    Let go guys cast your vote keep them coming please thanks.
    Arguing with your Boss is like wrestling with a pig in
    mud.
    After a while you realize that while you are getting
    dirty, the pig is actually enjoying it.

    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it
    creative problem solving.

    25 years ago we had Bob Hope , Steve Jobs , and Johnny Cash today we have no Hope no Jobs and no Cash !
    I can fix broke but i can't fix stupid !

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithg01 View Post
    I happen to be a certified professional in this trade for more than 21 years. I like this site alot and I would gladly apply for pro but what I don't like is the fact that you are required to make a certain amount of posts within a certain amount of time. I think I understand the reasoning behind this, but it's just not for me.
    A similar issue was brought up in the Controls Forum when it went Pro.

    amickracing, heavymetaldad and heaterman....

    If you guys bring me names of guests that qualify as Pro (in your opinion) for the Chiller Forum I will circumvent the Membership Committee and reset their site status to Pro. Just send me a list via PM.

    Note: I will reserve the right to reject anyone that in the staff's opinion would not be a good choice.


    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusker View Post
    A similar issue was brought up in the Controls Forum when it went Pro.

    amickracing, heavymetaldad and heaterman....

    If you guys bring me names of guests that qualify as Pro (in your opinion) for the Chiller Forum I will circumvent the Membership Committee and reset their site status to Pro. Just send me a list via PM.

    Note: I will reserve the right to reject anyone that in the staff's opinion would not be a good choice.


    thx
    I vote for Pro only.

    I would also like to add the name of RichardL for consideration. He has never applied for any special status, but if Lundsford doesn't qualify a whole bunch of us don't.

  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfdog View Post
    I vote for Pro only.

    I would also like to add the name of RichardL for consideration. He has never applied for any special status, but if Lundsford doesn't qualify a whole bunch of us don't.

    OK... Do I have a second from another Pro Member on changing RichardL to a Professional Member?

  11. #11
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    As a regular member working for an OEM I enjoy the ease of accessing the chiller forum and reaping the rewards. With that being said I am seeing more and more chiller work going to the local contractors and we are only being called as a last resort, maybe I will have to figure out how to go pro if it means we are helping protect our info. within our group at a professional level

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusker View Post
    OK... Do I have a second from another Pro Member on changing RichardL to a Professional Member?
    I'll 2nd it with out hesitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithg01 View Post
    I happen to be a certified professional in this trade for more than 21 years. I like this site alot and I would gladly apply for pro but what I don't like is the fact that you are required to make a certain amount of posts within a certain amount of time. I think I understand the reasoning behind this, but it's just not for me. I would like to chime in at random and help whenever I spot someone with a problem that I am familliar with or have encountered myself so that I could in turn offer my best possible advice. I think it's easy enough to keep out the majority of DIYs by requesting certification numbers or licensing info and store it with thier e - mail address. If your really that concerned about DIYs, than require the applicant to provide references ( employers, union local etc.) It is because of this "pros" section that I now have to search other sites for answers because I have no access so in turn, I will not be so eager to return the favor.
    Ah, you're not missing much. I find that there's way more info given to the New Members than you might think. There's a bunch of Chatty Cathys here. Hahaha

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