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  1. #1
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    Rheem has a direct spark ignition. Any thoughts on whether this will be more reliable than hot surface ignition. Do most hot surface ignitors go out at about five years?

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    10x more reliable that HSI.

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    docholiday,
    Why do you think DSI is better than HSI? (Just Curious)

    heetseeker,
    We have had our furnace for 10 years (York Diamond 80) and no HSI problems (Yet!)

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    Frown

    I love hsi systems, talk about a revenue stream. Some months hs ignitors make my house payment. Doc is right spark is much more reliable. Although not as profitable.

    No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast

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    How many DSI ignitors do you change compaired to HSI (yes you can interpolate (or extrapolate, I never know which is which) based on the numbers of units you sell of each. Its much more reliable. How can I better describe it? I can count on one finger the number of after hours calls I have made on DSI ignition problems, I wish I had a nickle for every HSI I was called away from the dinner table our out of bed to replace.

    York HVAC, you are one of the lucky ones, although I bet you just jinxed yourself.

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    No kidding, incredible number of service calls each winter for $200 that need a simple ignitor. Average life seems to be 2 to 5 years. 10 years is a rarity. York has used so many different ignitors it is murder to keep track of them. At least most brands have stuck to 1 or 2.

    Terry, I'll get you called soon to talk Mods! Been a wild week.

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    "York HVAC, you are one of the lucky ones, although I bet you just jinxed yourself."

    Gee Thanks!(And I hope I didnt!)

    "York has used so many different ignitors it is murder to keep track of them."

    Don't worry, I have all the service papers, installation and owners manual's, and replacement part number books all safley in a neat and organized binder. So if you ever service my system in Northern VA, it will be no problem Actually came in handy the time the tech needed to know the number of the blower motor.

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    You may have the info handy, but will the tech have the part when you call him at 3:00 in the morning? With as many ignitors that york has your chances are not very good.
    Karst means cave. So, I search for caves.

  9. #9
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    regarding having the proper ignitor any tech worth his salt will have the proper ignitor 98% of the time unless his company doesn't allow him to pick parts.
    No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast

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    I just counted 36 ignitors in the RE Michel catalouge.....this does not include oem specific models, and only 1 of these was York.

    Karst means cave. So, I search for caves.

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    York bites big time for that.

    But hsi's are good for profit.
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    How many times must one fix something before it is fixed?

  12. #12
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    spark ignition is the bast thing going almost no problems as long as they are serviced
    hot surface ignitors suck
    garrentied servie calls and almost always on overtime to when you can be with the family or sleeping

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    the newer ignitors that i have seen are getting better as far as reliability.....shorter warm-up times...i find hsi a lot faster to troubleshoot than spark,....and well you know time is money.

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