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  1. #118
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    Originally posted by john dalton
    Dear Chill factor,

    Regarding your posted comment:

    “Explain to me how 1lbs of feathers weigh 33% more than 1lbs of gold! To me what you are saying is crock!’

    “Crock”…….hummmmmmmm, your saying that I’m wrong, inaccurate, and a robber of the truth….. ….please read the second post from the top on page eight(8) of this thread and post again.

    By the way, it seems that my original question, as my apparent knowledge, and your assumption of me, may not be as simple as you’ve made them appear on this thread my friend.

    Respectfully Submitted,
    John J. Dalton

    Alright Johnny! Your question did not state according to the international measurements of weight which would weigh more. When you go to a jeweler then, we must be getting less than what we expected we are getting!
    Good answer John you got me! Hopefully one day I'll get you.

  2. #119
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    looking foward to the day friend...............

    Dear Chill factor,

    Regarding your previous post:

    “Alright Johnny! Your question did not state according to the international measurements of weight which would weigh more.’

    That’s because, unlike the typical metric vs. standard measurements that you are referring to in the above statement, the troy and avoirdupois weight systems have been the “standard weight systems” in the United States of America since before we were even a country my friend, therefore such a statement would not be required my friend.


    “When you go to a jeweler then, we must be getting less than what we expected we are getting!”

    That would only apply if either the jeweler you were at was dishonest, or you didn’t know what you were doing in the first place, either scenario would be sad.


    ”Good answer John you got me! Hopefully one day I'll get you.”

    And when that day occurs my friend, I will rejoice, for in that moment, I will have learned something from you.

    Till then…………………

    Respectfully Submitted,
    John J. Dalton



  3. #120
    John, back when I was taking the CMS exams I don't remember a heatpump one, they may have added this one as I have been out of touch with the everyday business of RSES for quite some time,at the time I was regularly involved there were the following

    Heating
    commercial refer
    domestic refer
    controls

    And I can't remember the other ones perhaps it was heatpumps,

  4. #121
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    Dear Top mechanic,

    Your memory severs you well friend, currently there are only six(6) CMS specialist tests, they are:

    Commercial refrigeration

    Heating

    Controls (as you well know)

    Commercial air conditioning

    Domestic service

    HVACR electrical

    The seventh Heatpump CMS specialist test has already been generated and is currently being reviewed by the Board of Directors of RSES for release sometime in the very near future I’m told, repeatedly.

    Respectfully Submitted,
    John J. Dalton

  5. #122
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    Dear Top mechanic,

    Just for your information, there are only sixteen(16) service technicians in the world that have been certified in all six existing areas, now that’s dedication.

    Respectfully Submitted,
    John J. Dalton


  6. #123
    I happen to know one of them and worked with him for quite some time, he is also the best tech I have ever met.

  7. #124
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    Originally posted by chill factor

    Alright Johnny! Your question did not state according to the international measurements of weight which would weigh more. When you go to a jeweler then, we must be getting less than what we expected we are getting!
    Not only are there 2 "pounds" in the English measuring system, avoirdupois and troy, there are:

    2 "feet", international and survey (sometimes called statute)

    3 "miles", due to the above, and a nautical mile.

    3 "gallons" (U.S. liquid, U.S. dry, and Imperial)

    3 "quarts" and "pints", due to the above.

    That is why I find the English system far more interesting than the metric system.

  8. #125
    Dear John Dalton,

    The problem with a forum such as this (written word) is that unless a person is a trained journalist, its easy for one's comments to be misinterpeted. Additionally, we aren't always aware of how we may come off. You may not realize how you sound at times.

    My reason for posting on this forum is to lend my expertise where I am qualified. I avoid (at least I think I try to)sounding arrogant, and demeaning. I try to keep my comments clear and understandable, and at the same time, take it to a higher technical level to further the understanding. I believe my previous posts here support this claim.





  9. #126

    Iceing

    This reminds me of my experience when I first was in the field and I confused overcharging a lo-temp system or a overfeeding T.X.V. in a lo-temp system ,which will cause iceing back to the compressor, with {stay with me here}the same issues with a high temp. system which does not show these symptoms. Early on I thought overcharging meant iceing back. Is the "co-worker" new in the field?

  10. #127
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    Long ago I had a Lennox fundamentals book that spent a long time on the difference between frost and ice. As I was just starting in this field this book was the best tool in my box. It's not always easy to tell by looking but they are caused by two different conditions. Frost by starving the evap from refrigerant and ice by having enough refrigerent in the air coil but not enough air. Once the tech thaws the system the problem is usualy obvious. Delta T and suction preasure are the clues to the problem but you have to decern if it's frost or ice. Now can an overcharge result in I guess icing? As preasures would rise and therefore temps I don't see how. Educate me.
    Tracers work both ways.

  11. #128
    think R-12.... think cap tube.....overcharge=frosting back.
    In high temp. systems it doesn't work that way

  12. #129
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    Dear Westcoast refer man,

    Regarding your post:

    “The problem with a forum such as this (written word) is that unless a person is a trained journalist, its easy for one's comments to be misinterpeted. Additionally, we aren't always aware of how we may come off. You may not realize how you sound at times.

    Not only do I agree with your statement above, I will go one step further and say, even if you are a trained, and experienced technical writer, or journalist, you still can be misquoted, misunderstood, or miss read, as to your original thought, or intention.

    And as for realizing how I sound at times, that can be almost impossible it seems, given the heated subjects, the varying options, and the differences of experiences most of us here has had, especially if you are passionate regarding your chosen profession, like many of us here are.

    But, if we are to be true to ourselves, our fellow colleagues, and this forum, we all must stand by our posts, good or bad, and take 100% responsibility for them in every sense of the word. If we are misquoted, we state that, if we are misunderstood, we clarify that, and if we are miss read, we clarify that as well.

    But most important, if we seem to offend, seem arrogant, seem to talk down to anyone, or generally conduct ourselves unworthily of a true professional, when trying to get our point across, whether it was intention, or not, we must first apologize for our actions, for it is our responsibility to get our thoughts across to our fellow colleagues in their true context. To this end, we should all be humble when called on the carpet when someone thinks they have been wronged. That was, and still is, my option from my first involvement on this forum.


    ”My reason for posting on this forum is to lend my expertise where I am qualified. I avoid (at least I think I try to)sounding arrogant, and demeaning. I try to keep my comments clear and understandable, and at the same time, take it to a higher technical level to further the understanding. I believe my previous posts here support this claim.”

    My reasons for posting are a bit more selfish my friend, one I would like to better my understanding of our profession so the company I work for might benefit, my Clients might benefit, my family might benefit (more knowledge means more money), and lastly that I might become a better HVAC technician, and engineer. Second, to give back something that was given to me, and that’s both knowledge, and wisdom, regarding our profession, and lastly to further our great profession, in both knowledge, and perception of the public.

    I too, like to answer the posted question on threads, and take it a step, or two higher for the benefit of myself, and my colleagues, and get into what some technicians might think is useless territory, but it most certainly helps better understand the refrigeration basics, and principles that we all are subject to on a daily bases.

    Again, I too have to agree with you that I try to make my posts clear, concise, and simple in nature, but because of the particular subject matter, or the complexity in nature of the process, procedure, or principle, this is not always possible.

    Last, by the nature and tone of your previous post, I can see that I have either offended you, or someone else on this thread, and although that was never my intention, like I stated earlier in this post, I take 100% responsibility for my posts and therefore apologize for any feelings that may have been hurt, and ask for your forgiveness regarding the matter.

    Very Respectfully Submitted,
    John J. Dalton



  13. #130
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    Dear Westcoast refer man,

    I look forward to future posts and threads with you.......

    Respectfully Submitted,
    John J. Dalton



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