Okay, I understand about the labor. Around here we don't worry wbout others getting it done.We just do it. I can't stand waiting for the other trades to do stuff. They ***** a little but oh well. My pet peave is the mesh for concrete. All the concrete guys put in rolls and they don't care where or how. We always use 8x15 flat stock and line up the squares to use them for our measurements. It sure looks purdy.