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  1. #1
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    I am not in HVAC.

    You are joking correct? So you come into an HVAC forum where HO's are talking to professionals that make their living in HVAC. The rules are no DYI.

    The not so funny thing is these men and women went to school, somce the school of hard knocks, have taken tests and are certified to do the work. Including the EPA tests for freon. Which makes me feel good they are following the law. This is how they make their living. And I am yet to see one post where they are soliciting business unless someone asks for a referral.

    Would you email a Doctor and ask for directions on how to remove your tonsils? The tools are all available even on Ebay. You could always go for a check up when finished.

    I have owned rental property and you can deduct the install just like stated. It sounds to me like you are cheap not frugal but cheap.

    I recently had two heat pumps installed by a licensed contractor. My brother in law who totes and fetches for an HVAC guy said come on we can do this ourselves. Buy the equipment for wholesale off the internet...find someone to startup up...save money. Excuse me but NO WAY.

    I did have a couple of issues after install. Guess what? A friendly call to the installer and he was here and made everything right. I also sleep good and comfortable at night knowing me and my family don't have to "sweat" because I wanted to be cheap. Also, I have a solid warranty.

    Also, please don't wash that oil into the land. The USA and world is becoming a cesspool and we all have to live on the planet that we have.

    So my advice is to hire someone. Do your homework, get references but hire someone. In the long run you will have less headaches and a warranty.

  2. #2
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    i like this guy

  3. #3
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    So my advice is to hire someone. Do your homework, get references but hire someone. In the long run you will have less headaches and a warranty.


    He is very smart too...
    Get payed for your skills not your Brawn.............

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    I think you may as well be talking to a wall with this guy...
    How tall are you Private???!!!!

  5. #5
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    Hey Guys,

    I'm actually working for the professional that's installing this unit in my place. These guys are friends of mine, licensed and I indeed have a warranty. And yes, they are being paid fairly they say, especially for my free labor. They even say that I'm the best apprentice they've ever had because I understand and learn quickly. I guess I ask good questions.

    I am not washing oil into my yard. I don't know where you got that from. I certainly didn't say that. That sounds like an inference. The place is black from 65 years of exhaust/soot. It's not thick, just light discoloration on the wall behind the old furnace. No oil on the floor whatsoever.

    I'm not messing with freon, electricity or gas. I'm running copper tubing, wires and pipe and letting them sit there at their termination points as instructed by my "boss." I'm sealing the ductwork and insulating it. All connections are being done by the professional. I know my limitations. Is that not what you pros have your newbie apprentices start off doing for you?

    Now for the responses I got. I asked for your thoughts and I got them. Actually, I appreciate the sincerity and truthfulness (and humor) and please keep them coming. I am not offended at all. If I was, then I guess I'm not mature enough to be here and don't deserve any responses at all.

    Thanks folks! If I have any further questions, I'll ask (like any of the other newbie installers on here).

  6. #6
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    Good luck with it Stetsonw, I am on your side.

    (Oracle DBA, Solaris / Linux sysadmin and hardware guru).

  7. #7
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    I'm kind of lost... If your working with a professional, why are you asking questions on the internet? Ask the professional you've contracted with. If he doesnt have the answers, he might just not be as professinal as you think (that is if he even exsists).

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    Thanks for the encouragement, dogturd! I'm an AIX and Linux cluster guru and recently doing intrusion detection for AT&T.

  9. #9
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    docholiday,

    Just because I have chosen to diversity my sources of information, it does not make my professional installer fictitious. Just about everyone here comes onto this site to do just that, get diverse opinions.

  10. #10
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    Hey DOC!

    I don't like diverse opinions!!!!

    I like the right answer.And how to get it.Just thought you sould know:}
    Seems to me that when you are reading this post you are paying attention.You know thinking to much.I mean just because the friends are pro's......Sometimes when your
    "friends" are pro"s you BETTER get on the internet to find out what to do and how to do it.Because his friends are pro"s he has this much trust.And I think more insulation will fix all the problems he's having.At least thats what "MY" pro friend said!!!:}}}
    41GASMAN

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    For the month of April I have diverse opinions on sale at my website. They come in a grab gag of ten. They are written by professionals from all walks of life. As a special note of interest each one contains an official opinion from Dr. Phil.

    http://www.Imacheapskate.com

    Special sale price $1.99 or three for $5.00

    Please no dealers.

    Limited supplies 35,000. When there gone there gone

    Act fast
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  12. #12
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    I consider myself to be a professional.I am on here all the friggin time getting anwsers to questions.Most of the time,the questions are ones that I didn't even think to ask.I've also found that just because answers are different.....doesnt always mean one is wrong.
    Go RCR!

  13. #13
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    Point taken, but as for me and my house, we will hire people who know what is right especially in such simple dilemas and one I can trust to find out the answer if he doesnt have it. I dont see any reason to pay someone else, and then have to chase after the answers for myself and fill him in as he goes.

    Hell I dont know it all either but I know enough to be a true professional because if I am being paid to do a job, I understand that it is my responsibility as a professional to make sure its done right by finding the solution, not leaving it up to the homeowner to figure out for himslef.

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