The Educational Forums will keep you busy for a while. Now, go into the Pub and shake up the boys at the bar.
Originally Posted by AC-GIRL
Join Date: Apr 2010
Uzzo2, I can see you believe your qualifications have been challenged. Keep your cool, this site is a great place to learn and keep learning. I've been in the hvac industry for now 34 years. Everyday I learn something new, and find myself having to brush up on something I learned in the past. I can not speak for others here, but I am quite sure you will find more people trying to help you than not. Learn from all of our mistakes, stay out of trouble and proudly represent the industry that we all love.
Thanks guys (and gals), I really appreciate the words of encouragement. I take a lot of pride in everything that I do and I think that makes the difference no matter what your background or experience level is. I can always tell by looking at something, no matter what it is, if the person that did it actually cared about what they were doing or just wanted a quick paycheck.
I have been in the field for over 15 years and I still have trouble with people thinking I am not capable of doing the repair. I no what kind of worker I am and so does my boss. I do what is right for the customer and the company I work hard with no short cuts. We can learn from you and you can learn from us so do not let the other run you off some of use are here to learn from you and others.
so does that mean no schooling or licences?
Originally Posted by uzzo2
LOL I'm only kidding.
Its kool man, take it easy. I was speaking of legally covering your own behind and saying learning more cant hurt. We get heavy fines for not having these licences, (in this state) and theres alot of safety issues that bring about the necessity for them. Do what you do and I wish you the best.
"Live Long and Prosper"-Spock
Nope, no schooling or licenses that I Don't absolutely have to get. Just something else for Uncle Scam to be getting to know you better. The best schooling I ever got was from the school of hard knocks, AKA... OJT!!! I've always learned more by actually getting out and putting my hands on something and doing it than being in a classroom setting and listening to someone tell me how to do it and then taking a test. The man that's taught me what I know about the HVAC business so far graduated in 1993 with his diploma. He told me that once he got out in the field, almost none of it applied to what he was actually doing. Thanks for the best wishes, I appreciate it.
Originally Posted by Klay
It`s better to be silent and thought the fool; than speak and remove all doubt.
Uzzo2 "Good Lord, if I had known this was going to turn into this big of an issue, I probably never would've registered here. If any of the mods are following, please feel free to go ahead and delete my account after this post. I just thought that this would be a good resource for me if I ran across something that I had never seen before, but I do have a few folks I can call for help if I need to."
I believe the intentions of the licensing discussion wasn’t to shut you down or somehow imply that you were a hack. Rather to give some feedback on some of the things that are needed in our neck of the woods.. if you are not required to have any of them then go for it. Don’t let this discourage you from doing HVAC work. This is a good place to ask for help once you turn PRO im currently working on going Pro myself so just hang in there and keep the good work ethic going.
For those interested on the progress of the dirty dirty coils.hahaha
THey have been cleaned and the system seems to be working better than when they were installed. The computer room that had a problem bringing the temp below 69* is now too cold, its currently 57* and im trying to warm it up. my ambient temp and VFD Motor are messing with my pressures but it looks like ive got
19*superheat and 45* subcooling. (ambient temp is about 37*) and No I Dont have any liquid Floodback just a long piece of exposed copper and really cold weather
Originally Posted by uzzo2
I'm going to suggest something and I'd like it if you didn't take it the wrong way, OK?
You NEED, NEED, NEED to educate yourself beyond the minimum required.
What is learned in technical schools is absolutely applicable to everyday service and anyone who tells you otherwise is a fool.
You need to understand airflow and heat transfer and the sensible and latent heat loads on a system to know what happens and WHY it happens.
You've joined a site here with a lot of pretty smart guys who are very willing to share what they have learned in the trade.
Step One would be to grow a skin of armor because you WILL get some responses that you don't like and that you don't want to read.
Step Two would be to get your post count up to 17 (I think) and apply for Professional membership where all of the tough problems are discussed and the deep, technicals discussions take place.
Definitely not taking it the wrong way, I'd love to learn all of that stuff. But I'd rather learn it from guys like you are referring to here. You need to understand that we know the instructor here at the technical school. He's been doing it a real long time and is a smart guy. Even he told me when I went and talked to him that I would be better off just trying to get on with a company and work under a skilled technician for a while. He said that I would learn more that way than he could ever teach me in the classroom. He gave us an example, Rheem had a manufacturing plant here, they closed it in 2009 and moved to Mexico. As part of their severence package, they had to further their education so guess where they went. This instructor told us that about 25% of them were just there for the check. When the rest of them graduated and were placed on jobs, well over half of those didn't make it very long. They either quit or were terminated, even the good ones he said that made very good grades just didn't understand what they were supposed to be doing once they got out on a job for some reason. We actually installed a new package unit for one of these guys last summer and we questioned him about it. He worked for Rheem for over 20 years and had been through the program at the school. We asked him why he didn't just install the unit himself with all of the experience he had. He told us that he just assembled them, and he didn't know anything about working on them. We're still scratching our heads over that one, I'm not downplaying a good education mind you. Just saying that everyone learns differently, I'm a hands on kind of guy. I had already enrolled and was ready to go after I healed from my spine surgery. But I couldn't even get a part time job at a fast food joint to try and make ends meet while I was going to school. I have a family to support and my wife is disabled so she can't work. Without me, there's no income coming in, so I can't be sitting in a classroom even if I thought it was a good idea without any income, know what I mean?
Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm
Learn to use paragraphs.
Gotcha, tried to edit it, guess that's not an option.
Originally Posted by Lusker
it is fairly obvious that you are not flooding back, since you have 19 degrees compressor superheat!
usually we can cool a space to 70-72 degrees using 55 degree discharge air.
You have brought the space down to 57 degrees, most likely with 40 degree discharge air?
is your SST 25 degrees????????????
suction line temp 44 degrees?? since you have 19 degrees SH?
I work for Sprint and embarq in server rooms, I take care of an underground server room with 100 data air server room units.
I would never let the server room drop below 69 degrees F!
Most systems are not designed for that?
sounds like you have a walk in cooler!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Tlaloc289
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