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  1. #495
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    Sep 2011
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    Jax, Florida
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    Hi. I found this site via some of the threads and responded to those before I actually introduced myself so my 3rd post will be my introduction...

    I live in Jacksonville, FL and started HVAC school in March. I graduate in December which will not be the best time to find work here in Jax, but I will still be ecstatic. I have had a strong customer service and computer technical background most of my career so anything mechanical related is pretty much new to me. I do well in class, probably the 2nd best student, but I am the only one there everyday whereas everyone else in my class are absent, if only a couple of times. Some miss 2-3 days per week. My mentality on this is that when it comes time for the school to help place me on a job, my attendance will give me an edge.

    I am enjoying the studies more than I thought I would and look forward to a long satisfying career. I seem to have grasped heat pumps well which in our area is a good thing. Anyway its late and I do have class tomorrow. I just wanted to get my posts flowing so hopefully by the time I graduate I will be in a good position to become a valued member.

  2. #496
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    Well, I've got 15 posts. Can Mechanical Designers apply for pro status? I'm not sure what I can show for credentials, I have been in the field for 30 years, I took a Black Seal course which I passed, but I never sat for the test because I'm not a boiler operator, so I lacked the hands on experience required to take the test. I just wanted greater background in boiler operation. I've done HVAC design, Plumbing design, Electrical design, Fire Protection design, equipment selection and specifying in all those fields. I've done engineering designs for casinos, schools, prisons, office buildings, Baseball fields, to name but a few, some residential, but mostly commercial and institutional work.

    So, I have the experience, but not the paperwork, except my certificate for the black seal course. Can Mechanical Designers without paper credentials apply for pro status here?

  3. #497
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    Quote Originally Posted by vangoghsear View Post
    Well, I've got 15 posts. Can Mechanical Designers apply for pro status? I'm not sure what I can show for credentials, I have been in the field for 30 years, I took a Black Seal course which I passed, but I never sat for the test because I'm not a boiler operator, so I lacked the hands on experience required to take the test. I just wanted greater background in boiler operation. I've done HVAC design, Plumbing design, Electrical design, Fire Protection design, equipment selection and specifying in all those fields. I've done engineering designs for casinos, schools, prisons, office buildings, Baseball fields, to name but a few, some residential, but mostly commercial and institutional work.

    So, I have the experience, but not the paperwork, except my certificate for the black seal course. Can Mechanical Designers without paper credentials apply for pro status here?
    Yes, please do apply. The Membership Committee takes your situation into consideration and very much wants everyone involved in HVAC professionally to have access to the professional forums.
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  4. #498
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    Feb 2011
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    Hi, I discovered HVAC-TALK.com earlier this year and have referred to this site many times this summer. There is a great deal of knowledge to be gleaned here and I am looking forward both learning and contributing more each time I visit. I am fairly new to the industry, but not new to the contracting business by any means. I started working in the produce sales, then managing the office operations of a general engineering firm. Now life’s twists and turns have brought me to the heating & cooling business.

  5. #499
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    I've applied. Thanks for the response RoBoTeq!

  6. #500
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    Aug 2011
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    el paso, tx.
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    HVAC kind of found its way into my life. I'm originally from Louisiana but after the military I followed my wife to her home town which is El Paso TX. Where I currently reside. I started working construction for a paving company and eventually worked my way up to a foreman. While working construction I would help my brother in-law out with installations and conversions. after two years in construction I decided to go to Western Tech. which is a trade school here in El Paso, for HVAC. I completed the 2 year course and started working with a friend in the appliance world. After that I started working for a larger company here and was a residential tech. About a year passed by and I was offered a job in the retail world. Started in El Paso and was promoted to Lincoln, NE (Go Big Red!) I was then about to be promoted to South Dakota. There was something in my life that was missing at this point. I love being outside and retail is an inside job. I missed being in a career that is constantly changing, and just when you think you know what your doing something new pops up. I just missed this field! So I called my brother in-law ( who has his own company now) and asked him if he needed anyone. Long story short I was back in El Paso in 3 weeks. Now I'm working residential and commercial. I do installations and conversions. I'm currently changing out 15 Lennux condenser coils at the Hobby Lobby here, and thats what I'll be doing for the rest of the week.

  7. #501
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    clay county missouri
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    i got an associates degree in hvac. work for a hvac business owner who does residential. i have worked the summer. i am currently his apprentice. i have done calls my self, but only ones he felt i could do right the first time. i have set and hooked up at least 20 condensing units so far. from setting the pad to wiring and brazing.
    i knew i had a lot to learn, now i know i have a lot to learn.

  8. #502
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    i started out in college after high school. i went to community college. my first major was in computer info systems, i changed to computer repair because i had problems with the computer language. you see all computer people in IT started out in their teens, and by college they are programers. i was behind the curve and i was not worth teaching. i went to the repair side but i left it after a couple semesters. i had family problems, then the industry components increased by 500 percent in capacity

    i like working with my hands and i have noticed that the computers are very heavy now.

  9. #503
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    Got a question. Are there people who only program and maintain on control systems? If so, who do these people work for? Are any of them independent? What is their education and experience background?

    Just curious, for now ...
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  10. #504
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    Mar 2002
    Location
    Olney, Md
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    First Post.

    Hi Dad and Family

    I've been coming here for quite a while now, 'bout time I posted.

    I started in this industry in 1962 in the US Air Force. I wanted to get into electronics, the Sergeant who recruited me said those slots were all full but that there was an "electrical control/HVAC" slot open. I was 19, unemployed, and quickly signed on the dotted line! After basic training I attended a 600 hour Air Conditioning and Equipment Cooling course (AFSC 54530Y) at Shepard AFB in Wichita Falls, Texas in 1962. We were awakened at 4:30am, marched to the chow hall at 5am and were in the classroom from 6am to 12 noon 5 days a week for 6 months.

    I was stationed on two remote radar sites during my four year AF career and got to actually work on refrigeration and AC systems. There were only three of us so we would be on emergency call every 3 weeks. The very first time I was called out was for a cold computer room. The computer room was full of big vacuum tubes and iron coil memory devices and condensation could cause problems. When I entered the equipment room the first thing I saw was a rather out of place blowtorch on the side of the boiler. A pipe union was loose and the gas leaking out had ignited, thus my first impression of a blowtorch. The flame must have been three feet long. Of course when I saw what was happening my first instinct was to put out the fire. The bucket of sand by the door, in place in case of a fire emergency, did the trick instantly. With the fire out and the sound of leaking gas hissing loudly chastening me for being so stupid as to actually put the fire out without stopping the flow of gas, I threw open the double equipment room doors and then immediately realized I had no access to any tools with which to close the gas cock. Believe me, the 15 or 20 minutes I waited for a senior mechanic to arrive with a shop key and a valve wrench seemed like hours.

    That was my initiation to this trade and while nothing that dramatic has happened since, it has been a very interesting trip to say the least.

  11. #505
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    Mar 2002
    Location
    Olney, Md
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    First Post.

    Hi Dad and Family

    I've been coming here for quite a while now, 'bout time I posted.

    I started in this industry in 1962 in the US Air Force. I wanted to get into electronics, the Sergeant who recruited me said those slots were all full but that there was an "electrical control/HVAC" slot open. I was 19, unemployed, and quickly signed on the dotted line! After basic training I attended a 600 hour Air Conditioning and Equipment Cooling course (AFSC 54530Y) at Shepard AFB in Wichita Falls, Texas in 1962. We were awakened at 4:30am, marched to the chow hall at 5am and were in the classroom from 6am to 12 noon 5 days a week for 6 months.

    I was stationed on two remote radar sites during my four year AF career and got to actually work on refrigeration and AC systems. There were only three of us so we would be on emergency call every 3 weeks. The very first time I was called out was for a cold computer room. The computer room was full of big vacuum tubes and iron coil memory devices and condensation could cause problems. When I entered the equipment room the first thing I saw was a rather out of place blowtorch on the side of the boiler. A pipe union was loose and the gas leaking out had ignited, thus my first impression of a blowtorch. The flame must have been three feet long. Of course when I saw what was happening my first instinct was to put out the fire. The bucket of sand by the door, in place in case of a fire emergency, did the trick instantly. With the fire out and the sound of leaking gas hissing loudly chastening me for being so stupid as to actually put the fire out without stopping the flow of gas, I threw open the double equipment room doors and then immediately realized I had no access to any tools with which to close the gas cock. Believe me, the 15 or 20 minutes I waited for a senior mechanic to arrive with a shop key and a valve wrench seemed like hours.

    That was my initiation to this trade and while nothing that dramatic has happened since, it has been a very interesting trip to say the least.

  12. #506
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    Oct 2011
    Location
    East Charlotte Area of NC
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    It is amazing how different our experiences are getting into the business.

    I was working at K-Mart in the electronics department out of High School. After about 6 months, my department manager approached me and told me I was a great employee, but would probably go nowhere at K-Mart (and at 19 years old.. I was looking that far ahead?). She let me know her husband had a small commercial refrigeration/HVAC company and needed a good helper. I went for it. I started out as a go-fer, and helping with installs of AC systems in Mobile Homes. As I rode around with him, he would slowly show me different things and how it all worked. Eventually I was installing on my own and doing some residential service. After the weekend he went to the beach and left me on call and I figured out that I could use a Hard Start to replace a blown start capacitor to get a Beer Cooler working for the weekend, he started putting me on more and more service calls (Can't have hot beer on a weekend). This job lasted about three years until he closed the business for personal reasons. After that and the end of a marriage, I moved out towards the Charlotte, NC area and began my life as a Commercial Refrigeration Tech. Then low and behold... I discovered Rack Systems. I think that was the only time I truly fell in love.

    I have been servicing Rack Systems for going on 10 years now, and really enjoy the work I do. It can be mind blowing and frustrating at times, but I wouldn't do anything else. You really never know what you are going to find day to day.

    In 2006 I became a Licensed Commercial Refrigeration Contractor here in NC. I started my own business, but couldn't handle doing service AND running a company. I closed up, and and happy where I am.

  13. #507
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    Oct 2011
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    eastern shore virginia
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    be thankfull you have work. I live in a place that for all practical purposes is an island. Very isolated. I've been in this business for 11yrs doing both install & service. Lately (the past 4 or 5 yrs) the work available in my area has fallen off to nothing. Even for other contractors. Now, I don't have certifications yet but I consider myself a trouble shooter. Not super intelligent but certainly above average. My experiences working under my mentor (shout-out to BnH Services) have always been thought provoking, never simple. My mentor (with 40yrs exp.) & I also enjoy disecting... everything. We also conduct experiments to better understand operational processes. Our latest venture is a fhp. New exp valves, good airflow, works good in cooling, goes into high pres. lockout in heating. Liqid pressure builds quickly but no signs of restriction (ie: frosting @ blockage or temp differentials in line). Any thoughts before I creat a simulation unit with valves all over to mock variables?

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